View Full Version : S197 tts/aix build start to finsh
marksti
08-19-2009, 01:38 AM
A few years back I bought my 2006 with motorsports in mind.
NOW mind you i don't write novels well, i'm not a 18 year old single kid that has time/desire to photograph their car endlessly and spend countless time on the net chatting about there ride.
But i do hope..that sharing this build will help a few people and maybe help me build a better car.
I've swaped out a few suspensions..tried a few different engine tuners..ran a few track with the car.
Thanks
First pic of the car....STOCK
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/97b67248.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/partsmustang006.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/Newmustangpics009.jpg
Its been a long trip so far
alloy6ix
08-19-2009, 01:42 AM
A few years back I bought my 2006 with motorsports in mind.
I've swaped out a few suspensions..tried a few different engine tuners..run a few track with the car.
With this thread i hope to share the cars basic story, maybe helping a few people by saving them precious time, money, stress.
Also I value any good input on further mods and future plans
Thanks
First pic of the car....STOCK
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/97b67248.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/partsmustang006.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/Newmustangpics009.jpg
Its been a long trip so far
Wow... Griggs = massive erection... lol.
Is that the TT, ST, or RT? or just a collection of griggs suspension/body parts?
Oh, and small request for more pics of your car... I need a new background and that car looks fucking sick man!! :beer:
marksti
08-19-2009, 01:46 AM
Car details:
BASE 06 Mustang gt
No side air bag
No mach sound system
No leather
Only options on car are wheel locks
Step one:Basic power mods
First things first, like many Mustang owners i added a tuner/pulleys/intake
Also i added a set of Steeda springs/struy brace
I ran the car to a 13.1@108 at the local
First track event run a Thunderhill in 2006.. found out that
1 Stock brakes fade uber fast
2 Stock tires
3 Steeda ultrlite springs bad on track (more of a drag spring)
mykim72
08-19-2009, 01:52 AM
sweet ride...id love to hear your comments on g trac brace...im still deciding...thanks
marksti
08-19-2009, 02:03 AM
Wow... Griggs = massive erection... lol.
Is that the TT, ST, or RT? or just a collection of griggs suspension/body parts?
Oh, and small request for more pics of your car... I need a new background and that car looks fucking sick man!! :beer:
The cars currently a Griggs installed ST chasis car with a Griggs tuned engine that makes 450-485 RWHP.
..Also equipped with many other parts some of which you see..some not :)
I'll continue my story when i have some more time..as the cars has a few different phases/suspensions
As far as the background...its by my house and easy to take pics...I know its not the best place
Regards
danbev07
08-19-2009, 02:09 AM
What rims are those. Full specs please (size, offset) :),
Your car looks great!
alloy6ix
08-19-2009, 02:32 AM
The cars currently a Griggs installed ST chasis car with a Griggs tuned engine that makes 450-485 RWHP.
..Also equipped with may other parts some of which you see..some not :)
I'm continue my story when i have some more time..as the cars has a few different phases/suspensions
I try to get better pics soon
As far as the background...its by my house and easy to take pics...I know its not the best place
regards
What rims are those. Full specs please (size, offset) :),
Your car looks great!
Well maybe just a few different angles lol, I don't wanna make you go find some ridiculous back drop just for me. haha. I don't care too much about the background, the house is cool man. But wow, that's an amazing set up there. :thumb:
and dan, I'm not sure the brand, but DusterRT had the same wheels and they're 18lbs each and 18X9 IIRC. not sure on offset or backspacing though.
SilverBolt
08-19-2009, 02:45 AM
Those wheels look like wedsports to me
alloy6ix
08-19-2009, 02:57 AM
This guy knows his stuff^^^^
http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16680
SilverBolt
08-19-2009, 03:20 AM
hahaha thank you thank you
marksti
08-19-2009, 03:25 AM
Those wheels look like wedsports to me
Correct...Nice wheels, but thay are kind of small in width
Enkei and TMR also have some lightweight wheels...However if
you want to truely use monster tires and have invested in a SLA front end then most people get custom wheels that start at $750 each like Forgeline/CCW etc.
marksti
08-19-2009, 03:32 AM
Suspension #1
BMR rear panhard bar
Steeda rear bar support
Steeda fixed upper third link
Steeda comp springs
Remove brake dust shields
Hawk pads
ATE blue fiuld
Hurst short shifter
Results:Same track 5 months later
Car felt alot better, alot more planted on brakeing/cornering...Brakes still weak, but avoided fade by being easier on them..
Lessons learned in this set of mods:Use the right springs for application, the brakes from the factory are really prone to heat problems more then anything else.
alloy6ix
08-19-2009, 03:33 AM
Correct...Nice wheels, but thay are kinds small in width
Enkei and TMR also have some lightweight wheels...However
you want to truely use monster tires and have invested in a SLA front end then most people get custom wheels that start at $750 each like Forgeline/CCW etc.
Thinkkker uses some pretty nice enkei wheels. I'd look for the thread but I'm in the middle of an essay. lol. Look up his profile and find his posts. I asked him about them a while back as far as cost and size. he doesn't have many posts so it wouldn't be that hard to find.
marksti
08-19-2009, 03:50 AM
Suspension #2
So i figured out its time to move on and start throwing more into the suspension on the car..(Actually more seat time is what was needed more then anything)
Ford racing suspension kit installed:
Sway bar kit with link
Spring kit
Shock/strut kit
Steeda rear lower control arms
When lowered with the new springs i found my rear traction from a dig was gone so i also installed
BMR rear lower arm relocation brackets to rear mounting points on the rear end.
BMR front lower control arms
At this point i started droppin weight off the car also
Lightweight battery
Removal wiper bottle
Removal spare tire/jack
Tires upgraded to Hankook RS2 in 245/45/17 on factory rims
The factory rotors were dumped in favor of DBA front + rear units and stainless lines..a agent 47 brake cooler spindle mounts were install and 3 inch tubes were run to cool the brakes
Aero:(more for looks at this point)
Steeda front lip
Steeda rear spoiler
Lessions learned:The Ford racing kit is GREAT for the $$$...Lowering the car causes its owm set of problems like having to relocate the LCA mounting/rear end/later on pinon angle..
Factory brakes aren't all to bad..when cooled proper and driven easy enough.
Even at this point in the build, the real beauty of the setup is in the fine tuning details like alignment/tire pressures/suspension angles etc
marksti
08-19-2009, 04:03 AM
Suspension setup/tuning #3: Fine tuning the Ford racing setup/other parts of the car
At this point we were tuning things in:
Steeda camber plates and 2 degrees - camber
Steeda adjustable upper rear control arm (to correct the pinon angle problem that manifested itself once the driveline was installed)
Coast driveshaft
Gt500 top hats
Steeda bumpsteer kit
Steeda g brace
Time for wheels and tires
Wedsports and BFG KD 275 40 18
More weight loss:
Razors edge bumper beams front+back
Spec stage 2+ clutch and lighter flywheel
Remove trunk trim
Steeda front radiator support
Agent 47 mirrors (just a few ozs, but they look better IMHO)
Hood VIS heat extractor (only ozs, but less heat underhood)
SLP loudmouth exhuast
Intake deletplates
Car dynoed also at 318 RWHP and ran 12.8@110 in the 1/4mile at this point..Car was run 5 more days at HPDE 2-3 levels.
Email tune from brenspeed still good
Lessions learned:Fine tuning in is good..more seat time better, front end still steers soft..car still has plenty of power for chasis setup...Street tires have to go...The lighter the car the more nimble, better everything works
Heres a on track pick at that time:
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/Picture002.jpg
I'LL STOP MY RAMBLING FOR NOW
SD07GT
08-19-2009, 12:03 PM
Where did you get your hood @ front grill at !
Thanks !
danbev07
08-19-2009, 12:19 PM
awesome thanks for the wheel info.
this is going to be a good thread :).
I am MAD jealous of your car!
marksti
08-19-2009, 01:28 PM
Where did you get your hood @ front grill at !
Thanks !
The hoods a VIS heat extractor got it at cruizen concepts (beware that i had to install hood pins right quick..and also the rear lifts at high speeds..If i had to do it again i would do a viper style hood with vents in the rear to drop underhood pressures at high speeds,)
The grills the new one from Shelby
Kaldar142
08-19-2009, 05:23 PM
hey marksti, i just looked up those bumper beams... very nice!
arn't the OEM bumper beams welded in though? let me know because i've been looking for more ways to drop some weight off the car and this seems like a great cost effective way
marksti
08-19-2009, 07:16 PM
hey marksti, i just looked up those bumper beams... very nice!
arn't the OEM bumper beams welded in though? let me know because i've been looking for more ways to drop some weight off the car and this seems like a great cost effective way
The front beams welded in by a few spot welds which can be drilled out in a few minutes.
The rears beam isn't IIRC..
marksti
08-19-2009, 07:26 PM
Suspension setup #4 which was end of last year:
We switched the Ford racing suspension to something alittle more "track like"
Griggs/Koni front coilovers (lighter then ford racing, with adjustable top hats)
Griggs Race watts link rear end with TA cover
Griggs torque arm setup
Griggs rear coilover conversion (no more shocks like the GC kit)
Conered weighed/balanced alignment at Griggs racing
Coast driveline
Dumped the Steeda adjustable third link
Car came in at 3230#'s with a full tank of fuel on the scales
Still on Nitto nt01's
Engine upgrades:
Comp cams stage 2 NSR cams
Upgraded radiator
Weight:
Corbeau seats that droped like 20#s each compared to factory units
Removed front door speakers
Started removing front window glass/motors for track outings
Removed ac compressor/lines
Lessions learned:You can't compare a MASS market suspension to a custom one...in price and perfromance, More so once it's dialed, Less weght always better..At this level the $$$ spent doesn't quite give you the bang for the buck like before
Also at this point once the rear end grip was sorted out, the weak front end suspension design began coming to the fore.
Theres nothing like having a world class race shop miles from your house :)
Next up: the jump to forced induction and complete Griggs chasis/Griggs race brakes etc etc
marksti
08-19-2009, 08:15 PM
Time for more powa:
Paxton Novi 2200 with air to air intercooler
Steeda belt tensioner
GT500 fuel system
SCT big maf
Deka 60#'s injectors
HTOs
The car put down from 450-490 rwhp on 3 different tunes
I bought the blower kit from a internet delaer, but after numerous attempts to have them give me a solid tune and after spending a extra $1000 needlessly i toke it over to John@ Griggs.
Lession learned:More powers better, but now the chasis balance is hendered and the factory rotor/calipers brakes don't work as well due to more speed and more weight..sometimes local tuners are what you need for a custom ap..or may even a remote one that knows what to do :)
Ran the car at a slow 1/4 mile track on a 91 octane tune with a full tank of gas: 11.8@119 short shifting at 6200 rpm, redline normaly set at 6500 with cams
Due to increased heat from the blower install the power steering system would over heat under extreme conditions..so a power steering cooler was installed
pcdrj
08-19-2009, 09:30 PM
Very similar to my setup. Are you running Grigg's brakes? Looks like it but can't really tell from pics.
marksti
08-19-2009, 11:26 PM
Suspension setup #5
So i made the mistake of trackin the car again..this time in a race group filled with track only race cars for the most parts including Katech C-6R's and Aerial Atoms on slicks.
The car ran Infineon in the low 1:50s still on those old Nto1's..but pushing the car that hard also cooked the brakes.
New setup:
Griggs ST front chasis system
Griggs front race brakes
Griggs rear race brakes
Griggs roll bar
Racetech 6 point harnass
Griggs custom brake intakes
Truetrac
Better/shorter intercooler piping
APR rear diffuser
315 tire rear coilover bracket kit
Shelby grill
Cars now at 3200 #'s WET
The SLA setup did wonders...at the end of the day i added a blower/roll bar/biggger cooling system,reinstalled a heavier crank pulley/reinstall OE driveline and the cars still lost 20-30 #'s or so by switching to SLAs/Griggs brakes.
More details/pics later
Kaldar142
08-20-2009, 12:09 AM
hey mark, more pictures of the car please!
Kaiser
08-20-2009, 01:12 AM
Yeah, great info on your build. I hope to get my GT on track soon but i'm going to change seats before i do.
Keep the updates coming!
DusterRT
08-20-2009, 12:04 PM
What can I say...you've got good taste in wheels! :-)
How long have you been running them? I recently had one crack on the inside bead, I've been wondering if they're built a little light for cars as heavy as ours. I've also been wondering if it was mis-handled when I had my tires mounted (it was at a reputable performance shop, but they had just gotten their tire equipment).
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h47/DusterRT/crack2.jpg
And what brake ducts are those? Too late for me as I've already conjured something up but I'm just curious..I saw them on another Griggs SLA'd car so is it a part of their system?
marksti
08-20-2009, 12:05 PM
hey mark, more pictures of the car please!
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/Newmustangpics012.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/partsmustang009.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/Newmustangpics002.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/Newmustangpics006.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/babycar109007.jpg
The cars currently run at open track events here in Norcal..and is entering NASA TT soon.
Thats it for now as far as current mods..in the future i hope to drop another 150#'s off the car and install the 315 tire package at all four corners
Theres always the chance the motor will let go also..so that may have to be adressed aswell.
There are ALOT of little things i didn't mention..but i don't want to bore people more then i have
Regards
Mark
BTW one of these days i gotta get some better pics :)
marksti
08-20-2009, 12:09 PM
What can I say...you've got good taste in wheels! :-)
How long have you been running them? I recently had one crack on the inside bead, I've been wondering if they're built a little light for cars as heavy as ours. I've also been wondering if it was mis-handled when I had my tires mounted (it was at a reputable performance shop, but they had just gotten their tire equipment).
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h47/DusterRT/crack2.jpg
And what brake ducts are those? Too late for me as I've already conjured something up but I'm just curious..I saw them on another Griggs SLA'd car so is it a part of their system?
The brake ducts are Griggs made...I had them installed on the car while at their shop getting work done.
I don't think the ducts are part of the SLA system..They are by request
I previously had the Steeda/Agent 47 setup these seem to work better
No, i haven't had any problems with the wheels..so far i have 14 or so track days on them...
Kaldar142
08-20-2009, 12:34 PM
I love your car, that's the steeda splitter, correct?
How do you like those corbeaus? I'm using sparco Evo 2 right now but I wish it was suede
DusterRT
08-20-2009, 12:58 PM
reinstalled a heavier crank pulley/reinstall OE driveline
I assume the driveline is due to vibration issues, but why did you put a heavier pulley on (I assume OE)?
marksti
08-20-2009, 01:15 PM
I assume the driveline is due to vibration issues, but why did you put a heavier pulley on (I assume OE)?
Yes and no...I had a Coast and it was rubbin alittle on big bumps..so i decided to go back to stock.
The crank pulley was becasue i went to a blower...which requires you run a factory pulley so the boost is proper.
Bizzyb0nes
08-20-2009, 07:55 PM
thats truly an awesome machine! more action pics please :)
I've been bouncing back and forth with how aggressive to go on mine when the time comes, but being daily driven (atleast now)...I'd probably end up going H&R race springs/Dspecs since it could remain a bit more streetable, and probably as nice as I good get given what I could/willing to spend. I go back and forth about swapping sway bars, but steeda says their kit only adds 10% difference in roll resistance...and that just seems cheaper/easier to get a slightly stiffer spring and call it a day.
foolio2k4
08-20-2009, 08:46 PM
Love the rear diffuser. May I suggest going with a APR wing for more downforce? Also an APR splitter that covers the whole front bottom.
There are ALOT of little things i didn't mention..but i don't want to bore people more then i have
Keep posting... you are not boring anyone!!! :beerchug2:
Kaiser
08-21-2009, 12:59 AM
Did you go with the Comp cams NSR before of after the paxton 2200? How does it idle with those cams?
I'm likely staying N/A for the time being and taking off weight, so i've been thinking of cams. Only thing i worry about is smog here in CA and i'm not sure if those would pass the sniffer.
Love the new pics!
marksti
08-21-2009, 01:46 AM
Did you go with the Comp cams NSR before of after the paxton 2200? How does it idle with those cams?
I'm likely staying N/A for the time being and taking off weight, so i've been thinking of cams. Only thing i worry about is smog here in CA and i'm not sure if those would pass the sniffer.
I installed the cams while I had plans to keep the car NA.
They add a nice bark to the motor and improve the very top end power range...but they also shift the power band alittle to the right for what its worth...which means less mid range.
As far a smog..Its still passes the IDLE/DYNO emissions tests.
I've seen a few real quick s197 AI/TTA cars around here...most run intake/pulleys/exhuast/headers and figure 310-325 rwhp is good and focus on suspension/chasis/brakes..and alot of weight reduction.
Not that cams are bad..i just didn't feel the love like i thought i would after i installed them.
Kaiser
08-21-2009, 02:52 AM
Thanks for the info on the cams. I'm not sure i'll go with cams yet, but nice to know they will 'sniff' ok.
I've pretty much got all the bolt ons ( pullies, intake, delete plates) except for headers. I know long tubes are the way to go, but the ol CA smog comes into play there. I still might go for it eventually.
After going to an American Iron race a few years ago at Sears point, i remember the difference between the AI and AIX cars seemed to be around 2 seconds or so. So your right on target saying it's best to focus on really good suspension setup and weight reduction for the track, at least to start off with.
Kaldar142
08-21-2009, 09:57 AM
Hey mark, how did you like the BMR a-arms? Was it worth the upgrade? What kind of improvements did you feel
marksti
08-21-2009, 11:13 AM
Hey mark, how did you like the BMR a-arms? Was it worth the upgrade? What kind of improvements did you feel
Its hard to say how well they worked/how much better they were then stock...since i installed them at the same time with the Ford racing suspension.
They ar lighter then stock..the bushing are better..maybe better ball joints also.
marksti
08-21-2009, 11:15 AM
Love the rear diffuser. May I suggest going with a APR wing for more downforce? Also an APR splitter that covers the whole front bottom.
More aero would be nice..your right :)
..the Roush track wing looks good also..but i have to save up for a 315 tire package.
SD07GT
08-21-2009, 02:11 PM
Its hard to say how well they worked/how much better they were then stock...since i installed them at the same time with the Ford racing suspension.
They ar lighter then stock..the bushing are better..maybe better ball joints also.
ok then..........How would you rate the BMR arms on Noise, vibration , harshness anything like that (NVH) ?
Thanks
marksti
08-21-2009, 02:27 PM
ok then..........How would you rate the BMR arms on Noise, vibration , harshness anything like that (NVH) ?
Thanks
Very good IMHO..Do keep in mind i had the street versions with poly bushings, they worked nicely with the Ford racing suspension kit i had at the time.
Kaldar142
08-21-2009, 03:36 PM
i think i may go with those
pcdrj
08-21-2009, 03:45 PM
Suspension setup #5
So i made the mistake of trackin the car again..this time in a race group filled with track only race cars for the most parts including Katech C-6R's and Aerial Atoms on slicks.
...
How'd you hold up against those C-6R's?
Also, how are thos Griggs brakes on the street?
SD07GT
08-21-2009, 04:55 PM
i think i may go with those
You might want to speak with BMR and see if they can put the Steeda x-5 ball joints in them before they insert the H/D ford ones , They probably would take the cost of theres out ..so it wouldn't really be that much more .
I would think with the BMR arms and a set of G/C coil overs/Griggs ...thats going to be the best you can get without buying a Complete Griggs setup in the front which is Flat out the best but some people say the Agent 47 set up is pretty good also .
Just a thought:beerdrink:
Branomano08BlackBullitt
08-21-2009, 06:15 PM
I really like those Brake Cooling Ducts they are freaking SICK.... my favorite part of the exterior haha.
marksti
08-21-2009, 06:27 PM
How'd you hold up against those C-6R's?
Also, how are thos Griggs brakes on the street?
That was the best day out at the track...lining up against 4 Katech 6Cr's (3 of them were race versions like the 24 hours lemans cars) and Atoms etc.
I kinda brought a knife to a gun fight..as most of the cars had slicks
Out of 15-17 cars in the field my Mustang was 6th or 7th..The C6rs were faster(posting 1:43-1:45's IIRC and the Atoms were pretty quick in the mid 145's..both cars on slicks)
I only lasted 3 seesions as i burnt the brakes up running the car hard (still on factory size rotors/fatcory brake calipers at that point)
That day at the track made me switch over the brakes and install the SLAs so i can maybe keep up with the C6r's next time.
The brakes are good...alittle noisey but good.
pcdrj
08-22-2009, 09:43 AM
That was the best day out at the track...lining up against 4 Katech 6Cr's (3 of them were race versions like the 24 hours lemans cars) and Atoms etc.
I kinda brought a knife to a gun fight..as most of the cars had slicks
Out of 15-17 cars in the field my Mustang was 6th or 7th..The C6rs were faster(posting 1:43-1:45's IIRC and the Atoms were pretty quick in the mid 145's..both cars on slicks)
I only lasted 3 seesions as i burnt the brakes up running the car hard (still on factory size rotors/fatcory brake calipers at that point)
That day at the track made me switch over the brakes and install the SLAs so i can maybe keep up with the C6r's next time.
The brakes are good...a little noisey but good.
Nice. I ran 2 weeks ago with a C-6R who was out of my league. I'm running Griggs's ST. I was having heat soak issues with the Saleen s/c but I honestly don't think it would have made much of a difference.
marksti
08-22-2009, 10:27 AM
Nice. I ran 2 weeks ago with a C-6R who was out of my league. I'm running Griggs's ST. I was having heat soak issues with the Saleen s/c but I honestly don't think it would have made much of a difference.
The C6rs are monsters..the faster ones were within a few seconds of the track record....thats nothing to sneeze at.
But then again..they are very highly developed cars..race cars.
I don't expect to be able to beat every car out there,..just tossing it up with some of those exotics in a Mustangs a honor.
However since this is being built as a TTS car..i do hope I'll be able to hold its own in that class.
Heat soak SO far hasn't been a problem (I run cooler then most, with no ac condenser to block air, vented hood, better cooling system)
Heres a few quick pics ..I'll don't know how many people have seen a ATOM with slicks/full aero track kit(pretty rare)
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/kids025.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/kids021.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/kids007.jpg
chad05gt
08-22-2009, 11:21 AM
Very informative...
Wicked Mustang to say the least.
I am surprised the stock size rotors and calipers actually were pratical to your level to this point.
Trust that a number of us are reading, not posting... keep the quality info flowing.
Thanks
pcdrj
08-22-2009, 11:57 AM
The C6rs are monsters..the faster ones were within a few seconds of the track record....thats nothing to sneeze at.
But then again..they are very highly developed cars..race cars.
I don't expect to be able to beat every car out there,..just tossing it up with some of those exotics in a Mustangs a honor.
However since this is being built as a TTS car..i do hope I'll be able to hold its own in that class.
Heat soak SO far hasn't been a problem (I run cooler then most, with no ac condenser to block air, vented hood, better cooling system)
Heres a few quick pics ..I'll don't know how many people have seen a ATOM with slicks/full aero track kit(pretty rare)
Did you go hp/power ratio or add up the mods to get to TTS?
marksti
08-22-2009, 12:02 PM
Did you go hp/power ratio or add up the mods to get to TTS?
I added it up......and thats on the very edge of TTS i think..however after i start in the class they may bump me...After i get the big wheel/tire package more so.
marksti
08-22-2009, 12:12 PM
I am surprised the stock size rotors and calipers actually were pratical to your level to this point.
I saw a guy in a pretty quick TT s197 running them years back.
TT guys (time trail) are real keen on eeking every last inch of performance from parts since they docked points for upgrades..He was running power slots and hawk race pads and turning times close to class records..However he had a nice air intake setup for the brakes..which made a huge difference.
I followed suit..until now.
This last time runnin with some quick cars..the brakes felt overloaded..They went from 60% to 10% on the left front in 3 sessions.
Lession learned.
pcdrj
08-22-2009, 12:22 PM
I added it up......and thats on the very edge of TTS i think..however after i start in the class they may bump me...After i get the big wheel/tire package more so.
Yeah, if I do the math 3230#/450hp =7.2. That puts you in TTU and you'll loose another .75 for tires once you go 315's (Hoosiers I presume) . I think you also have to stay above 3201# to avoid further points.
I'm no expert here so I could be totally wrong, but that's what I've been figuring using NASA website.
How long have you been at HPDE 4 level?
marksti
08-22-2009, 04:16 PM
How long have you been at HPDE 4 level?
3 years
Kaiser
08-22-2009, 04:35 PM
That was the best day out at the track...lining up against 4 Katech 6Cr's (3 of them were race versions like the 24 hours lemans cars) and Atoms etc.
I kinda brought a knife to a gun fight..as most of the cars had slicks
Out of 15-17 cars in the field my Mustang was 6th or 7th..The C6rs were faster(posting 1:43-1:45's IIRC and the Atoms were pretty quick in the mid 145's..both cars on slicks)
I only lasted 3 seesions as i burnt the brakes up running the car hard (still on factory size rotors/fatcory brake calipers at that point)
That day at the track made me switch over the brakes and install the SLAs so i can maybe keep up with the C6r's next time.
The brakes are good...alittle noisey but good.
Just wondering, what were your lap times before you went to the Paxton blower?
It's almost hard to imagine that a Mustang could keep close pace with one of those C6Rs. Those are pretty serious looking track cars.
Branomano08BlackBullitt
08-22-2009, 04:37 PM
Does Griggs sell those Brake Ducts seperately by chance?
marksti
08-22-2009, 06:17 PM
It's almost hard to imagine that a Mustang could keep close pace with one of those C6Rs. Those are pretty serious looking track cars.
Infineons a pretty close track that favors handling vrs power.
The Mustang was in the mid 1:50's before the blower..it dropped to low 1:50's with blower suspension retuning.
The Vettes were in the low to mid 1:40's..which is a good amount quicker then i was that day.
The SLA front end should drop some time as should the larger/sticker tires.
I agree its kinda funny that a Mustang can run somewhat with a crowd like that...But hey Griggs says they can build cars that can give exotics a run for their money..i guess so, maybe.
I run the car in various events just so i can mix it up with different cars
max2000jp
08-23-2009, 01:55 AM
Technically, that's not a C6.R. Those appear to be Katech prepped vehicles. A C6.R is a mean machine.
SoundGuyDave
08-23-2009, 02:03 AM
A C6.R is a mean machine. Meh. Last time I was on track with one of them, I pulled on him by about four laps in our session. Granted, he was in the pits, on fire, but still...:thud:
alloy6ix
08-23-2009, 02:22 AM
Heres a few quick pics ..I'll don't know how many people have seen a ATOM with slicks/full aero track kit(pretty rare)
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/kids025.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/kids021.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/kids007.jpg
that atom is a beast.. and is it wrong that I want that blue C6 as my new background.. and car. lol. someone ----> :asshat: me!!
pcdrj
08-23-2009, 10:43 AM
Meh. Last time I was on track with one of them, I pulled on him by about four laps in our session. Granted, he was in the pits, on fire, but still...:thud:
I know the feeling. After spending all day getting out of their way I finally did pull on 2 of them... on Rt 55 on trailering it home.
Branomano08BlackBullitt
08-23-2009, 04:50 PM
I know the feeling. After spending all day getting out of their way I finally did pull on 2 of them... on Rt 55 on trailering it home.
LOL That seriously just made me LOL.... I could only imagine how annoying that would be... haha at least you got the last laugh and actually you did. You get to drive your car home and on the street. You can enjoy it on off the track. So HA! lol
marksti
08-23-2009, 04:52 PM
Looks like i'll be taking the car out on the last Saturday in August at the Shelby club event @ Infineon
First time out on the SLAs/brakes...last time out on the old Nittos
marksti
08-23-2009, 04:53 PM
Does Griggs sell those Brake Ducts seperately by chance?
I'm not sure..but from what i recall they are custom made per application
Branomano08BlackBullitt
08-23-2009, 05:13 PM
Figures... they are the sickest Brake Ducts I have seen on a S197... I was thinking they would look sick on my Planned GT/CS or GT500 Front Fascia.... add another level of aggression not to mention the performance gains.
Kaldar142
08-23-2009, 07:18 PM
great thread, i myself just got back from a weekend at summit... i love the setup on my car, especially my brakes (Stoptech ST40s with hawk DTC-70s). gave a bunch of cars a good run
pcdrj
08-23-2009, 10:05 PM
Looks like i'll be taking the car out on the last Saturday in August at the Shelby club event @ Infineon
First time out on the SLAs/brakes...last time out on the old Nittos
I've got a track day tomorrow. Should have been on 315's but still waiting for replacement wheels to arrive...ARG!
marksti
08-23-2009, 10:17 PM
I've got a track day tomorrow. Should have been on 315's but still waiting for replacement wheels to arrive...ARG!
Same thing here..i would love some wheels..but they take 3-5 weeks to make/ship/mount at a cost of 4-6k to boot.
I figure atleast on the 275s..I'll get to tell the before/after results better.
Random Asshole
08-24-2009, 03:24 PM
Very impressive weapon you got there Mark. Very similar to the setup I'm trying working up to, minus the griggs pieces. Truly a well pieced machine. I'm surprised you went that long running fairly stock brakes. Goes to show that these things are probably the track friendliest mustangs ever made out of the box. (with good fluid and pads anyway)
How many times have you tracked it with the blower setup?
How are your IATs and any other vital #s or concerns like belt slippage and detonation?
I really want to stay NA myself, but would like to get into the 450whp range. Although, I'm still pretty happy with what I'm doing out there with what I've got right now.
marksti
08-25-2009, 12:37 AM
How many times have you tracked it with the blower setup?
How are your IATs and any other vital #s or concerns like belt slippage and detonation?
.
6 days so far with the blower
No problems so far with belt slippage, detonation, heat related hickups at this point...Yet
TorqErik
08-26-2009, 06:41 PM
The car looks amazing and the Griggs suspension just flat out rocks. I almost bought the complete TT kit for my 06 but I sold it and bought a Z06 instead haha
A friend of mine just bought the RT pack for his 07 in Sweden, that will be crazy when it's done.
I've got a track day tomorrow. Should have been on 315's but still waiting for replacement wheels to arrive...ARG!
Ot: where in Bucks County are you from? I was born and raised in Doylestown :thumb:
pcdrj
08-26-2009, 09:26 PM
The car looks amazing and the Griggs suspension just flat out rocks. I almost bought the complete TT kit for my 06 but I sold it and bought a Z06 instead haha
A friend of mine just bought the RT pack for his 07 in Sweden, that will be crazy when it's done.
Ot: where in Bucks County are you from? I was born and raised in Doylestown :thumb:
I'm in Ivyland. Do you track the Z06?
TorqErik
08-27-2009, 08:08 AM
I'm in Ivyland. Do you track the Z06?
70-80% of the mileage on the car is from tracking it :) It's not a race car, but as close as possible still being street legal.
marksti
08-27-2009, 03:21 PM
Looks like the cars going out with Shelby club this Saturday at Infineon..So to celebrate I'm gonna try to pull alittle more weight out of her..if i have enough time that is:
Pass air bag
Axle tube dampeners
Carpet insulation
Scrape the floors of "the goop"
If i could get the car to 3190#'s with a full tank of fuel it would be sweet :)
SD07GT
08-27-2009, 04:14 PM
Looks like the cars going out with Shelby club this Saturday at Infineon..So to celebrate I'm gonna try to pull alittle more weight out of her..if i have enough time that is:
Pass air bag
Axle tube dampeners
Carpet insulation
Scrape the floors of "the goop"
If i could get the car to 3190#'s with a full tank of fuel it would be sweet :)
I wouldn't scrape the goop off ..you could run into spot weld problems and moisture issues ...Ive seen these problems in the past
Kaldar142
08-27-2009, 07:06 PM
Marksti, is your cars weight with you in it?
pcdrj
08-27-2009, 08:36 PM
70-80% of the mileage on the car is from tracking it :) It's not a race car, but as close as possible still being street legal.
Yeah, out of the box they have to be the best bang for the buck. I've been cosidering a used Z06 for some time. I'd like to take back to back laps, Z06, GT3 and compare to my Mustang.
StangMahn
08-27-2009, 09:17 PM
that looks fantastic! I really wanna build a track specific car one of these days
marksti
08-28-2009, 02:39 AM
Marksti, is your cars weight with you in it?
3400-3410
marksti
08-29-2009, 01:50 AM
Well i didn't have the time to remove anymore weight...but a few loose end got tied up.
The factory driveshaft was replaced ( by talking to a few racers, turns out some of the factory two piece units also have probelms with the CV boot..sure enough mine i noticed was leaking grease from the boot slinging it on the underbody)
The driveshaft was replaced due to the center support bearing pushing out.
Power steering seepage was fixed..
Off to the track i go
09AlloyGT
08-29-2009, 10:26 AM
I know I'm a nobody, but I must say this is a beautiful car!! And thanks alot for taking the time to share all of the BS you learned and parts you used..Its nice to see another (few out there, $$$$) that shared their Grigg's trial stories..I may have some questions for you on PM if you don't mind some time.
Again, badass car.
Robert
foolio2k4
08-29-2009, 01:01 PM
More aero would be nice..your right :)
..the Roush track wing looks good also..but i have to save up for a 315 tire package.
I have the roush track wing. Its the same one as the apr gtc-200 series wing. I havent tracked my car yet but I can tell you that I did notice a difference even when im just going freeway speeds and taking onramps full on :). Less bumping at the rear at higher speeds just a planted feeling.
marksti
08-31-2009, 08:46 PM
I toke the car to the track...102+degrees..add another 20-30+ for track temps and then throw in a fire suit :(
I had some understeer problems..that no tire adjustments would fix...it was to hot to mess with..so i just backed down on my driving...as i was just given rides to friends and not competing in a class.
The car did well considering the PS pump died also (heat)
New Griggs brakes were great
On the to do list:
Fix PS system
Raise seat 2 inches
Fix rear hood lift problem (now does it at 100 mph due to higher flow from grille)
Tune out understeer, adjusting pressure didn't help..looks like adjustin the Watts link/Front sway bar may do the trick...If not, alignment.
Once thats dailed in..start ramping up my driving to suit the car
Get new tires/wheels soon aswell.
With road racing like many motorsports its never done..more so when you change setups.
marksti
08-31-2009, 08:51 PM
I know I'm a nobody, but I must say this is a beautiful car!! And thanks alot for taking the time to share all of the BS you learned and parts you used..Its nice to see another (few out there, $$$$) that shared their Grigg's trial stories..I may have some questions for you on PM if you don't mind some time.
Again, badass car.
Robert
No problem..one thing i learned is that whenever you change alot of stuff..is not to get to frustrated..as it takes a day or two at the track to work out the kinks.
Quick cars are seldom built without alot of development/time/practice
DusterRT
08-31-2009, 09:00 PM
Fix rear hood lift problem (now does it at 100 mph due to higher flow from grille)
http://www.gpfracing.com/ProdImages/M-8200-A.jpg
If you look at the FR500S grille, you can see where they have it blocked off roughly where the GT fogs would be. I think this is to combat hood lift and the understeer that is a byproduct of having a high pressure area under the hood. There's a guy on another forum with a Griggs equipped S197 who reported a significant handling improvement by installing a hood with massive heat extractors on it. Food for thought...
marksti
08-31-2009, 09:05 PM
http://www.gpfracing.com/ProdImages/M-8200-A.jpg
If you look at the FR500S grille, you can see where they have it blocked off roughly where the GT fogs would be. I think this is to combat hood lift and the understeer that is a byproduct of having a high pressure area under the hood. There's a guy on another forum with a Griggs equipped S197 who reported a significant handling improvement by installing a hood with massive heat extractors on it. Food for thought...
Good points.. i was having understeer problems moreso in the slower turns (50-70mph)..then long sweeping ones..so i know the aero wasn't quite the whole problem..maybe part of it..but not all for sure.
I will shortly vent the rear of the hood to help with the pressures.
DusterRT
08-31-2009, 09:21 PM
I will shortly vent the rear of the hood to help with the pressures.
If you're talking about removing the seal at the base of the windshield, don't do that..that's a high pressure area and you'll just let more air in. I took mine off, taped some strings to the back of the hood and what do ya know...even at 100+ they were getting blown under the cowl.
SD07GT
08-31-2009, 10:02 PM
If you're talking about removing the seal at the base of the windshield, don't do that..that's a high pressure area and you'll just let more air in. I took mine off, taped some strings to the back of the hood and what do ya know...even at 100+ they were getting blown under the cowl.
What about putting some spacers on the rear studs that bolt the hood down on the rear....you could raise the back 1/4 of an inch to vent the air and heat ??
also do you know anybody who had a gt500 spliter and tryed to install it on a gt ??? ... I heard just with a few small mods it would work
DusterRT
08-31-2009, 11:05 PM
The entire area at the base of the windshield is high pressure. I've seen guys with vintage Mustangs do just that, but I think it would take a whole lot more than 1/4" before you started seeing gains (probably 1"+). Aerodynamics are tricky!
As far as the splitter..it has been done more than a couple times, search around the various forums. IMO it looks kind of "off" and the mounting doesn't look too solid..it's not that large so I'm not sure if there'd be any appreciable gains.
Kaiser
09-01-2009, 01:08 AM
Good info on the Hood issues.
My hood shakes around alot starting at 80mph so i need to do hood pin's or another hood. It just makes me nervous knowing that the hood could come off at high speed like what happened the first time they ran the FR500 at Daytona. Also, where can you get that FR500S grille?
Mark, just wondering if your PS pump has the Griggs PS cooler ?
marksti
09-10-2009, 01:37 PM
I installed a new power steering pump..that fixed the noise of death coming from under the hood
I vented the rear of the hood by cutting a few slots ala some of the Saleen hoods
Got some new wheels/tires coming
I need to fix the driver seat//maybe raise it alittle still bit
Thats it for now..no track days planned for 1 or 2 months
Blair
09-10-2009, 01:47 PM
How does the performance/feel of the torque arm compare to the upgraded UCA/LCA set up you had? I've looked into getting a Griggs SS setup on my car with a local installer. In their opinion the torque arm is the majority of the handling benefit of the package and they even suggested doing only the torque arm first and deciding on the coilovers later if I felt they were needed.
Thanks,
Blair
marksti
09-10-2009, 02:23 PM
How does the performance/feel of the torque arm compare to the upgraded UCA/LCA set up you had? I've looked into getting a Griggs SS setup on my car with a local installer. In their opinion the torque arm is the majority of the handling benefit of the package and they even suggested doing only the torque arm first and deciding on the coilovers later if I felt they were needed.
Thanks,
Blair
The torque arm plants the rear end IMHO vrs controlling the rear end movement with a LCA/UCA setup.
The nice thing about the coilover setup is that it lets you corner weigh/balance the car and its alittle lighter then say a ford racing suspension.
I would suggest a torque arm... and if you want to "dail in" your setup a good coilover setup is a +.
marksti
09-17-2009, 03:10 AM
Soo the new wheel/tire package is on
They are .9 inchers shorter so that lowers the car alittle..also to make the Mustang look better i dropped the car another .3 of a inch, Also being a smaller tire, this raises the rear gear fo the car alittle.
The contact patch of the tires measures a meaty 11.3 inches which should help hook up the car.
Here are some pics
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/wheelskids017.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/wheelskids015.jpg
Always a work in progress
I hope to install my Aerocatch hoodpin kit..Its been sitting in a drawer for two years
marksti
09-17-2009, 03:20 AM
BTW for those of you that want get a view about what real racings like check this out..wheel to wheel on two well developed cars with a couple of rock stars for drivers.
Both cars are 150K+ and built by the best, so they aren't cheap..but they also hold track records in their classes...Turnin laps in the 1:49 range in the summer heat at Thunderhill
The stangs Andersons-Griggs car the GTRs is Locks-Gotos new GTR racer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRzHEPeK33U
Thought a few might of not seen this..theres a part two also
Kaldar142
09-17-2009, 11:06 AM
Nice what wheels are those?
Kaldar142
09-17-2009, 11:29 AM
Man I love that hood, I wonder if it fits with the procharger intake
marksti
09-17-2009, 11:38 AM
Man I love that hood, I wonder if it fits with the procharger intake
The hoods nice...but really not any lighter then stock
Also..alot of shake..so hood pins are a must..quick style after install
Also it doesn't vent air/heat as well as it should///..I would recommend the VIS TS hoods for bettter performance..
In terms of looks its nice
marksti
09-17-2009, 11:39 AM
Nice what wheels are those?
TR Motorsports 18 by 9.5, 7.1 backspacing with 45 mm offset
Theres grip of room on the front brakes..and they are pretty light...They don't look as good in the pics, as in person
Still the Wed sport wheels take my vote for looks tho.
foolio2k4
09-17-2009, 11:58 AM
Hey I just bought a hood that looks just like that. The coating is damaged so Im gonna have to wet sand it down. But its a great looking hood.
mykim72
09-17-2009, 12:41 PM
Hey I just bought a hood that looks just like that. The coating is damaged so Im gonna have to wet sand it down. But its a great looking hood.
post some pics up when you get it on
marksti
09-23-2009, 03:19 PM
Aerocatch hood latches installed
Cars back at Griggs gettin some prep work/slight suspension
work
ZmanM3
09-23-2009, 06:07 PM
You have a great looking car and it seems that you have made it into quite the beast.
marksti
01-14-2010, 04:37 PM
Quick update:
Car now wears some Hankook RS3s for the street 2853518s..pretty sticky so far
New modifed Steeda front splitter installed
I had to reinstall the factory grill due to airflow problems(to much air underhood with the shelby grill, rear of hood would lift at 100+ mph)
Also the rear of the hood had some slots cut to vent air...ala Saleen.
Some more weight was removed like the carpet padding/minor plastic trim..
Lookin at some 18 by 10.5 or 11 inch wheels
Gettin the car ready for next season
ArizonaGT
01-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Subscribing!
Kaldar142
01-15-2010, 08:24 AM
Nice nice...
I need to get rolling on my setup... Doing it big in 2010
STEVE_POE
01-15-2010, 09:56 AM
would you mind sharing about your front brake ducts and the plastic scoops attached to them for more air direction?
nice car btw.
marksti
01-15-2010, 11:42 AM
would you mind sharing about your front brake ducts and the plastic scoops attached to them for more air direction?
nice car btw.
Thanks
The front brake ducts are hand made by Griggs, I don't know if they sell them tho....
pcdrj
01-15-2010, 12:01 PM
Thanks
The front brake ducts are hand made by Griggs, I don't know if they sell them tho....
Nope. They were a one-off for you. Agent 47 has a nice setup though.
DusterRT
01-15-2010, 12:05 PM
They look like generic rectangular NACA ducts with some massaging and a little lexan scoop thingie..
http://porterfield-brakes.com/product_info.php?productID=25
STEVE_POE
01-15-2010, 12:22 PM
little lexan scoop thingie
that is what I'm looking for .
Rodeoflyer
01-15-2010, 09:03 PM
Quick update:
Car now wears some Hankook RS3s for the street 2853518s..pretty sticky so far
New modifed Steeda front splitter installed
I had to reinstall the factory grill due to airflow problems(to much air underhood with the shelby grill, rear of hood would lift at 100+ mph)
Also the rear of the hood had some slots cut to vent air...ala Saleen.
Some more weight was removed like the carpet padding/minor plastic trim..
Lookin at some 18 by 10.5 or 11 inch wheels
Gettin the car ready for next season
Hey Mark -
I didn't know that was a Shelby grille. At a glance it looks like the FR500s. Did you try blanking anything off behind it, like the plates available for that grille?
Did you ever do an undertray up front or do you still have just the Steeda splitter?
Post some pics of your newly modified hood. Mine is the same but in fiberglass. Did Griggs do the work?
marksti
01-16-2010, 12:12 AM
Hey Mark -
I didn't know that was a Shelby grille. At a glance it looks like the FR500s. Did you try blanking anything off behind it, like the plates available for that grille?
Did you ever do an undertray up front or do you still have just the Steeda splitter?
Post some pics of your newly modified hood. Mine is the same but in fiberglass. Did Griggs do the work?
I just went back to the stock grille (the Shelbys not any lighter) and moded it alittle for increased flow by cutting out/hollowing out a few of the mesh blockoffs.
I have a moded Steeda splitter now..a new undertray is in the works
I'll grab some pics when the weather clears
marksti
01-16-2010, 08:09 AM
Check out some new R compound rubber coming to market :)
http://www.us.pirelli.com/en_US/browser/attachments/pdf/November_December_2009_PTNA_Newsletter.pdf
Kinda look like sport cups these new tires
marksti
02-02-2010, 10:39 PM
So latest update:
Jongbleod wheels/315 30 18 R888 comin in Friday..on all four corners :)
APR GTC wing with Gurny flap is in
Sparco steering wheel/quick release installed
Another 35# was removed via seam sealer/sound deading/Pass side air bag
Looks like the cars goin to TTR soon.
I'll post l8tr
FR500GT
02-03-2010, 03:54 AM
YESSS PICSS!!!
BTW you will love the R888's, Im running 295 on all 4 corners :)
STEVE_POE
02-03-2010, 08:53 AM
BTW you will love the R888's, Im running 295 on all 4 corners :) oh god don't do that . they are horrible..... why do you think they stopped making them and went back to the ra1 ? trust me on this you will not be happy. When they get pushed they give it up bad and they don't come back either. they suck .
marksti
02-03-2010, 02:18 PM
oh god don't do that . they are horrible..... why do you think they stopped making them and went back to the ra1 ? trust me on this you will not be happy. When they get pushed they give it up bad and they don't come back either. they suck .
I understand your reasoning
But after talking to the car builder (Griggs racing)... and seeing the tires in action on a setup gr40 car..plus checking the specs I think i'll have to give them a shot
I agree these tires aren't for alot of people, more so lighter cars with little suspension travel running alot of camber...but from my understanding if the chasis IS setup to run these tires..they perform good (not like a set of slicks tho)
I'll report back to you :)
Thanks for the heads up tho.
Racingtheburg
02-03-2010, 03:07 PM
BTW those wheels are on www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com) I think. The lightest wheels I found for SUPER cheap. More pictures of the wheels and tires? Like behind the car and complete side shot?
How much did you pay for the wheels? Also I think they were 19lbs per wheel?
marksti
02-03-2010, 03:52 PM
BTW those wheels are on www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com) I think. The lightest wheels I found for SUPER cheap. More pictures of the wheels and tires? Like behind the car and complete side shot?
How much did you pay for the wheels? Also I think they were 19lbs per wheel?
Sorry they don't sell those Jongbleods on the rack :)
Yes they do sell the TR motorsports wheels there..i think about 300 a wheel plus tires.
pcdrj
02-03-2010, 08:42 PM
I ran R888's last year while waiting on my Jongbloeds. They greased up very quickly and seemed slower that street tires. I hated them.
Now running 315 Hoosiers R6 and using the R888's on the street and as a rain tire but I will not buy another pair. Rather go with KDW's than R888. I'm surprised Bruce recommended them to you. He wasn't keen on them when I talked to him.
pcdrj
02-03-2010, 08:48 PM
...How much did you pay for the wheels? Also I think they were 19lbs per wheel?
http://www.jongbloedracing.com/
The JRW 305 (18" x 10.5") weighed 18 lbs when I received them. Mounted with a 315 Hoosier they are waaaaay lighter than GT500 18" x 9" with 275-45-18's.
marksti
02-03-2010, 10:55 PM
I ran R888's last year while waiting on my Jongbloeds. They greased up very quickly and seemed slower that street tires. I hated them.
Now running 315 Hoosiers R6 and using the R888's on the street and as a rain tire but I will not buy another pair. Rather go with KDW's than R888. I'm surprised Bruce recommended them to you. He wasn't keen on them when I talked to him.
Bruce and a few other big time guys actually did.
I'm just looking at times..one of Bruces guys ran 1:43's at Infineon all day long..3800#'s race weight on a 375hp car...So i don't know,.that seems pretty quick for a r compound.
I've run NT01s & Pilot sport cups before on my car..How does the 888 compare to those?
BTW we switched to 305/35/18 in sizing
The thing is also..since i live right by Griggs, i get in house setup for chasis stuff..could that make a difference?
The only thing i can compare the R888s to is the Pilot sport cups and the NT01's...
And from what i've heard the r888s are faster then both those..??
Educate me...
Thanks
Rodeoflyer
02-04-2010, 12:02 AM
I've ran the R888 and the NT01
The NT01 was faster for me, and lasted WAAAAAAAY longer.
Fuck those POS.
marksti
02-04-2010, 12:47 AM
Nitto does make a 3153018
fastduo
02-21-2010, 01:33 PM
Subscribing!
Me too.
And, I do not like the R888's at all. Very greasy. Running the NT01 now. Better but, not by much. The RA-1 hands down was one of the best R compounds that I ran and lasted the longest. The Hoosier R6 is an awsome tire also but kiss them goodbye in short order.
Just my opinion....
FR500GT
03-08-2010, 12:46 AM
Any updates or pics of the new wheel setup?
marksti
03-09-2010, 11:32 PM
Any updates or pics of the new wheel setup?
Not much happen...I've been busy with other cars/other stuff
The cars been at Griggs for a few weeks getting ready/prepped/upgraded more for the 2010 season
I'll be pickin the car up later this week and i'll snap a few more pics
The car does look nice with the new APR wing/rims
2010 gonna be fun :)
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/camaro018.jpg
Random Asshole
03-10-2010, 03:41 PM
Me too.
And, I do not like the R888's at all. Very greasy. Running the NT01 now. Better but, not by much. The RA-1 hands down was one of the best R compounds that I ran and lasted the longest. The Hoosier R6 is an awsome tire also but kiss them goodbye in short order.
Just my opinion....
Hate to thread high jack, but I've looked around trying to compare the r888's to the ra1's and all the threads I can find are from 2008. I got a buddy that has his crosshairs set on r888's for his 04 z06. He says he wanted Nitto NT-01, but they don't come in the sizes (I'm assuming the rear) he wants.
From what I gathered: (not stating fact, just what I've read from personal reviews)
RA1's
1. RA1's take some heat to get them going.
2. RA1's should be shaved or they chunk, even with proper heat cycling.
R888's:
1. take a few sessions to get them broken in. (which could be the greasy complaints above?)
2. Do not require shaving.
Could it also be that r888's are better for lighter cars?
Also, how bad are nt-01's in the wet? Since the RA1 has more treads, that would make the RA1's a better overall choice considering it has to run all weather conditions?
STEVE_POE
03-10-2010, 04:21 PM
Maybe this will help ya.
http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25366
or this
http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29834
Random Asshole
03-10-2010, 05:20 PM
Maybe this will help ya.
http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25366
or this
http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29834
Thanks Steve! Much appreciated. I tried googling ra1 vs. r888 and those links were not in the results I recalled. I guess I should just search the nasa forum with searches like this.
marksti
03-20-2010, 01:56 AM
Edit
Not so fast! I saw the pics
The car look incrediblie
marksti
04-10-2010, 10:19 AM
Heres a few updated pics
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/emmamustnag32010022.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/smogfix/emmamustnag32010040.jpg
Sleeper_08
04-10-2010, 10:56 AM
That hood looks interesting. Is it vented at the front?
If you don't mind - what brand and model is it?
Vapour Trails
04-10-2010, 12:44 PM
Pretty nice lookin' ride for a track car.
marksti
04-10-2010, 03:24 PM
That hood looks interesting. Is it vented at the front?
If you don't mind - what brand and model is it?
The hoods made by VIS..i forget the model name (its been 3 years since i installed it)
I had to vent the rear by cutting slots ala Saleen...the rear would lift above 110 mph
chad05gt
04-10-2010, 03:33 PM
I had to vent the rear by cutting slots ala Saleen...the rear would lift above 110 mph
Could you post some pics of this?
marksti
05-28-2010, 06:23 PM
Off to Infineon for a track event filled with Ferraris ;)
We switched over to race brakes..so that should be a blast
Stangmeister9
05-28-2010, 08:53 PM
that is a great build. its clean and functional which is hard to do!
FR500GT
05-28-2010, 11:39 PM
Off to Infineon for a track event filled with Ferraris ;)
Post videos or BAN!!! haha
foolio2k4
05-29-2010, 02:12 AM
Pics and videos!!!
marksti
05-30-2010, 10:15 AM
edit
06 Saleen
05-30-2010, 09:47 PM
Subscribed. This build is just awsome very nice car
mykim72
08-11-2010, 03:28 AM
boo no updates...
marksti
08-11-2010, 02:27 PM
Been busy
The cars set and prepped for the Shelby club nationals at Infineon coming up here soon aswell as a weekend at Seca in mid Sept
It got some upgrades recently like a MGW shifter/custom rear diff cooler/catch can from Griggs/lighter battery/rear aero mods etc etc
Also i'm doin some small mods on my 2011 GT500..installed a pulley/tuner/intake/battery on it a few weeks ago
ArizonaGT
08-11-2010, 04:40 PM
Need more pics and vids
marksti
08-11-2010, 11:47 PM
Need more pics and vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyHcOWEAjy4
Check this out...keep an eye out at around 3:30 or so,,and turn the volume up.
This is a vid from a modded 2010 911 gt3rs
I was stuck in a mid level group for 1 session (since i showed up without a spot reserved)..Next session they moved the car up to the race group.
Still theres nothing like runnin in TT or race events...
Dreadknought
08-12-2010, 12:03 AM
yeah about that video...
Thevesh
08-12-2010, 01:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyHcOWEAjy4
OK, I liked that :)
Were you running on slicks?
Ch4r1ie
08-12-2010, 03:03 AM
QyHcOWEAjy4
Check this out...keep an eye out at around 3:30 or so,,and turn the volume up.
"he came out of nowhere!" love it! :la:
Random Asshole
08-12-2010, 07:05 AM
Typical porsche driver. If he ain't wearing a factory or professional team's race suit, he ain't worth shit on the track. Seriously.
Anyway, hasn't that video been posted earlier in this thread?
Ch4r1ie
08-12-2010, 07:16 AM
Typical porsche driver. If he ain't wearing a factory or professional team's race suit, he ain't worth shit on the track. Seriously.
Anyway, hasn't that video been posted earlier in this thread?
Nice edit, I got to see the original post first though! lmfao
Sure has, that's why it was a 'Quote', I simply embedded the video properly though! :thumb:
Turbolvr321
08-12-2010, 08:40 AM
Car sounded awesome in the video!
marksti
08-12-2010, 01:54 PM
OK, I liked that :)
Were you running on slicks?
No, my three year old r888's
We are going up to 315/30/18 R6s at all four corners for next year
The cars always a work in progress
Random Asshole
08-12-2010, 05:11 PM
Nice edit, I got to see the original post first though! lmfao
Sure has, that's why it was a 'Quote', I simply embedded the video properly though! :thumb:
Lol. I was drinking, then thought it may have been a little too "blue". Glad ya liked it.
ArizonaGT
08-12-2010, 06:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyHcOWEAjy4
Check this out...keep an eye out at around 3:30 or so,,and turn the volume up.
This is a vid from a modded 2010 911 gt3rs
I was stuck in a mid level group for 1 session (since i showed up without a spot reserved)..Next session they moved the car up to the race group.
Still theres nothing like runnin in TT or race events...
Edit: lol
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