Quest for 12's with a 100% street car.

http://youtu.be/PyXxC5hd5_E

I installed J&M lower control arms which are half working because they need a relocation bracket to adjust the tilt from lowering the car. In using the relocation brackets, I CAN lose some braking ability and cornering ability.

Those are 2 things I am not willing to sacrifice so it is what it is. I also installed a Freedom racing pan hard bar to line up my rear properly as the stock one shifted when I lowered it. It was visually noticeable even with my 1" drop. This reduced my spin in 2nd down to an acceptable chirp. Also COMPLETELY killed the fish tailing in 2nd.

I will no longer heat up my tires as the general consensus seems to be my Nitto 555s work better at ambient temperature. So I was hurting myself by burning out this entire time.

I will give it another go probably Sunday, the 7th.

I did not get 12's. I managed to best my previous time just slightly from a 13.122 to 13.115. I just want a 12.9XX or faster and I will be happy.

Slip up tomorrow. All runs in the video, though.

To clarify by "street car" I mean a car with full weight, spare and street tires. No weight reduction, no slicks/radials etc. At 107.60 and 107.80 I feel there is at least a 12.9XX in there somewhere.

EDIT: By street tires I mean no 'R' compounds or DRs.

I have already completed this feat. 12.44 @ 108 mph. Street tires, full weight. I drive the car down, race it, drive home.

So, it is so doable. That 12.44 was before the lt install.

2DaDarkZide PR said:

http://youtu.be/PyXxC5hd5_E

I installed J&M lower control arms which are half working because they need a relocation bracket to adjust the tilt from lowering the car. In using the relocation brackets, I CAN lose some braking ability and cornering ability.

Those are 2 things I am not willing to sacrifice so it is what it is. I also installed a Freedom racing pan hard bar to line up my rear properly as the stock one shifted when I lowered it. It was visually noticeable even with my 1" drop. This reduced my spin in 2nd down to an acceptable chirp. Also COMPLETELY killed the fish tailing in 2nd.

I will no longer heat up my tires as the general consensus seems to be my Nitto 555s work better at ambient temperature. So I was hurting myself by burning out this entire time.

I will give it another go probably Sunday, the 7th.

I did not get 12's. I managed to best my previous time just slightly from a 13.122 to 13.115. I just want a 12.9XX or faster and I will be happy.

Slip up tomorrow. All runs in the video, though.

To clarify by "street car" I mean a car with full weight, spare and street tires. No weight reduction, no slicks/radials etc. At 107.60 and 107.80 I feel there is at least a 12.9XX in there somewhere.

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Hmmm. I've gone low 11s in full street trim on my 20" wheels

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NA-Stang said:

I have already completed this feat. 12.44 @ 108 mph. Street tires, full weight. I drive the car down, race it, drive home.

So, it is so doable. That 12.44 was before the lt install.

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What were your mods?


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I've done a best of 12.85 in full street trim, gotta slip the clutch out nice and shift on point, 6500 range.

Easily done.

06 Saleen said:

Easily done.

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This.

fdjizm said:

I've done a best of 12.85 in full street trim, gotta slip the clutch out nice and shift on point, 6500 range.

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You're dumping then slipping at 5k though. That scares me lol.

Also, it spins so much on a 3k dump that I fear higher dumps or slips.

I definitely won't be heating up the tires next time.

Did you guys have more mods? I am strictly trying to do it with intake, headers, o/r x pipe, 4.10s and 93 Tune. Now with the addition of LCAs, (only a marginal help since they're without the bracket), and the pan hard bar which helped tremendously.

As far as not heating up the Nitto 555s, you shouldn't do a burnout or anything like that (stay out of the water box), but you should still give them a good spin to make sure they're clean. I'm not sure what the DA is at your track normally but with all your mods, 12s should be doable.

I ran a 12.95 with C&L Street, 93 bama race tune, Steeda UDPs, LCAs, Nitto 555s on 18inch wheels all around, full weight, and an off-road H pipe. I was launching at 1200 RPMs (that was the sweet spot I found where I didn't spin badly but still had some RPM when launching). I cut a 1.94 60' if I remember right. What are your 60' times?

2DaDarkZide PR said:

Did you guys have more mods? I am strictly trying to do it with intake, headers, o/r x pipe, 4.10s and 93 Tune. Now with the addition of LCAs, (only a marginal help since they're without the bracket), and the pan hard bar which helped tremendously.

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I have exact same mods minus LCA.
I run 555r which is street tire and I ran 12.77
Mine is auto and dynoed only @ 275/275

Easy enough.

She was running 12.7-12.9 range with nothing more then 93 Oct tune, C&L Street, Prochamber, CHE LCA's, 1pc Alum DS, and a set of 17" MT Drag Radials mounted on OEM wheels.

TheDarkPath said:

As far as not heating up the Nitto 555s, you shouldn't do a burnout or anything like that (stay out of the water box), but you should still give them a good spin to make sure they're clean. I'm not sure what the DA is at your track normally but with all your mods, 12s should be doable.

I ran a 12.95 with C&L Street, 93 bama race tune, Steeda UDPs, LCAs, Nitto 555s on 18inch wheels all around, full weight, and an off-road H pipe. I was launching at 1200 RPMs (that was the sweet spot I found where I didn't spin badly but still had some RPM when launching). I cut a 1.94 60' if I remember right. What are your 60' times?

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I'll try 1200 as my best 60 was with a 2000 RPM and 2500 Launch. Still spinning a pinch in first.

My 60's are also 1.9XX. My Best was 1.960.

Ssiptang said:

I have exact same mods minus LCA.
I run 555r which is street tire and I ran 12.77
Mine is auto and dynoed only @ 275/275

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69Mach1-409 said:

Easy enough.

She was running 12.7-12.9 range with nothing more then 93 Oct tune, C&L Street, Prochamber, CHE LCA's, 1pc Alum DS, and a set of 17" MT Drag Radials mounted on OEM wheels.

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Both you guys have used DRs or an R Compound tire. I want to do it strictly with my 555s. So maybe I can't?

As for the comment about DA, it is ATCO which I guess is a great track. I know nothing of its 'specs'.

My bad, missed that part. I got acouple 12.9x's with the GY F1's but it wasn't anything consistent.

ATCO is a favorable track.. any track around here is (Cecil, Atco, or Etown). They're all near sea level and we tend to have a decent DA's. If you go late in the fall you can even get negative DA's.

I only had an O/R H, lca's, saleen suspension, 3.73's, delete plates, c&l racer, 93 BBR tune and 555r. Launching from 5k

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What were your mods?


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Mods are in my sig...

NA-Stang said:

Mods are in my sig...

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UDPs, CMDPs and Relocation brackets. 3 things I don't have. I'll keep trying Thats the best part!!

06 Saleen said:

I only had an O/R H, lca's, saleen suspension, 3.73's, delete plates, c&l racer, 93 BBR tune and 555r. Launching from 5k

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I think OP is looking to get into 12s with 555.

I was still in 12s with 1.9X 60s on stock pirelli though.
My 555r only helped to 1.8X I guess because mine being an auto.
Your trap speed is good for deep into 12s.
I say get that LCA relocator and launch @ higher RPM?

Ssiptang said:

I think OP is looking to get into 12s with 555.

I was still in 12s with 1.9X 60s on stock pirelli though.
My 555r only helped to 1.8X I guess because mine being an auto.
Your trap speed is good for deep into 12s.
I say get that LCA relocator and launch @ higher RPM?

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I WOULD get the relocation but I have read up on here that it will affect my handling negatively, and braking.

I'll let you know in two weeks what I get on invo's. I'm hopeing 12's.

2DaDarkZide PR said:

You're dumping then slipping at 5k though. That scares me lol.

Also, it spins so much on a 3k dump that I fear higher dumps or slips.

I definitely won't be heating up the tires next time.

Did you guys have more mods? I am strictly trying to do it with intake, headers, o/r x pipe, 4.10s and 93 Tune. Now with the addition of LCAs, (only a marginal help since they're without the bracket), and the pan hard bar which helped tremendously.

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don't be scared these are mustangs!!!!!!!!
My car wants to idle at 6500 rpm!