Phenolic Spacers for S/C engines. Get'em Now!

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Play-Doh is great for that purpose. Used it many times when I was doing a custom coolant tank as well as when I was cutting the hood for thr shaker scoop.


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When I bought My K-member I opted for the stock height as I didn't want to lower the headers any. If I remember correctly it came with engine mounts that didn't look like I can use anything off the shelf. Might have to give BMR a shout to see what my options are.
 

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Maximum Motorsports k-member is the only aftermarket that retains oem or oem style mounts. BMR and UPR have built-in mounts.


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go buy some play-doh and place it on any high spots you want to check, then close the hood. make sure engine in cold and place play-doh in plastic so it doesn't stick to anything. you can then see how much hood clearance you have.


I have the gt500 hood, so I can see in underneath and I should have enough clearance. I wasn't sure where it wasn't tested for specific kits, but think I'm going to run with it and get on the list!
 

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The spacer project is dead! The numbers weren't there and more importantly Steeda threatened to sue. They claim that their CMDP patent would be infringed. They demanded 10% of the gross to allow Jason to sell the spacers. Would have cost $100k to fight Steeda. Another good idea from an American company killed by a patent troll!
 

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Because DOBs spacer will be almost the same specs just different material. This is where the patent is being applied. Not because of the final purpose or end result of the product.


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Shouldn't matter when it comes to there patent because they are different. It's for the same damn motors of course there there going to be similar otherwise they won't fit. All it does is open a door for them to copy and sell the little guys work. Make me want to buy 2 sets so DOB can fight the corporate bullshit.

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If Jason caves to their 10% of gross demand they get free cash! If he doesn't they have they market to themselves and can reap 100% of the profits, if they so chose. It's a lazy but profitable business practice.
 

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Well it could be profitable to Jason to selling the idea to them with a contract that states he's there manufacturer. They would need to meet minimum quantity's for x amount of years. They do all the marketing and bear all the cost. There are laws that keep people like Jason from being robbed of his ideas and inventions. Idk! Makes me pissed and it's not even my problem. I know some people high up the food chain that handle while eating there Wheaties but at the end of the day what's it really worth.

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So how the heck did Steeda even get a patent for a heat resistant spacer that goes between bottom of manifold and top of each head ? And what's a patent for a CMCV delete plate have to do with a
manifold spacer ? Is steeda planning on selling heat resistant manifold spacers themselves ?

None of this makes sense. I have a patent on a flower pot.... so dob can't sell phenolic spacers. The concept is not new, I suggested a heat resistant spacer to VMP several years ago, but that was between bottom of blower and top of manifold. Putting a 2nd spacer between heads and manifold would be the ultimate fix...esp if both spacers used.

Plan B would be to ceramic coat both mating surfaces.... heads to manifold... and blower to manifold.
Iat's would drop a bunch. The way to deal with heat issues, is to try and not generate as much of it in the 1st place.
 

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Fuck Steeda. Their products have turned into total shit. Only thing they're good for is billet aluminum shit to put in your interior. This revelation about their status as a patent troll makes me hate them even more.
 

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Need to turn the tide against steeda, crowdfund $150,000 worth of legal fees so Jason can make the spacers and then IF steeda decides to go to court, it gets handled.
 

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Need to turn the tide against steeda, crowdfund $150,000 worth of legal fees so Jason can make the spacers and then IF steeda decides to go to court, it gets handled.
Good idea, could put it in escrow, invested, payable back to contributers with gains after a predefined amount of time if no case is brought against the vendor.
 

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Like them or not Steeda sees this as an infringement on a product they hold a patent for. That's the whole purpose of a patent. Sucks. But that is the system we have. It doesn't make them a patent troll.

Now if he made these and machined them to accept the CMCP system, but left it to the buyer to install them, Steeda's argument would become moot. It wouldn't officially function like a CMCP delete kit since it is designed to use the CMCP system.

Now if the end user/buyer chose to install the CMCP system or plug the holes and install them without the CMCP, Steeda cannot control that. Jason could even sell a plug kit separately as it would fit both the stock spacers and the heat blocking spacers.

fu#k and you Steeda.
 

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Sad to see this fall through, maybe we will be able to do something with this down the road. :(
 

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Can Steeda's CMCV deletes work on a car that has a DOB450, Whipple, Roush, etc., supercharger? None of these kits even have CMCV to delete in the first place! If not then the design has been changed enough to invalidate the patent infringement claim.
 

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No the DoB manifold completely replaces the cmdp/cmcv


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