Coyote swap TR3650 speed sensor??? What to do?

[race4food]

The swap is finished and running but my so called "solution" for the speed sensor is not working.
What do I use for a speed sensor for a Gen1 control system using a TR3650?

 

[dark steed]

Be sure to add whatever it costs to the total for the swap [emoji6]


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[Juice]

The swap is finished and running but my so called "solution" for the speed sensor is not working.
What do I use for a speed sensor for a Gen1 control system using a TR3650?

The answer to that would be in the stupid simple pbh harness instructions, no?

 

[race4food]

no there is no provision for the speed sensor.

 

[Juice]

no there is no provision for the speed sensor.

That is fucked up. Why the hell not? Or did they think you didn't need a working speedo?

 

[race4food]

The speedo is supposed to work through the canbus is what I'm reading.

 

[Juice]

The speedo is supposed to work through the canbus is what I'm reading.

It does, but the speed sensor needs to be connected. Look up the 11&up wiring.

 

[race4food]

appreciate the help juice! Ran her for a good bit to purge the cooling system and check for leaks etc today. Man she is freaking LOUD even with 2 chamber resonators added in.

 

[mattjames]

It does, but the speed sensor needs to be connected. Look up the 11&up wiring.

Could you expand on what exactly needs to be done using a TR3650 speed sensor and 13-14 battery/trans harness? I have 2012 Mustang Wiring Diagrams on the way

 

[Juice]

Harness has 3 wire connector for speed sensor. One is +5 volts. IGNORE this wire, and connect the 2 wires from the sensor to the other 2 wires in the harness. (Signal and ground)
Than just calibrate speedo in the tune.

 

[mattjames]

Harness has 3 wire connector for speed sensor. One is +5 volts. IGNORE this wire, and connect the 2 wires from the sensor to the other 2 wires in the harness. (Signal and ground)
Than just calibrate speedo in the tune.

Right on!

 

[amac20]

That is fucked up. Why the hell not? Or did they think you didn't need a working speedo?

The PBH instructions are pretty poor. Sounds like you’ve done this swap with the body harness, mind shooting me a PM for some questions? Appreciate it!

 

[Juice]

The PBH instructions are pretty poor. Sounds like you’ve done this swap with the body harness, mind shooting me a PM for some questions? Appreciate it!

I used the factory battery harness for a 2013.
Factory pcm, repinned body connector (c175b)
Had pats delete done on the pcm, but I like the control pack strategy better, and have working cruise with that strategy. It works without the PATS delete.
And than tuned it myself with SCT PRP

 

[amac20]

I used the factory battery harness for a 2013.
Factory pcm, repinned body connector (c175b)
Had pats delete done on the pcm, but I like the control pack strategy better, and have working cruise with that strategy. It works without the PATS delete.
And than tuned it myself with SCT PRP

What did you repin on the body connector? And does your tcs, abs, and ac work?

 

[amac20]

I used the factory battery harness for a 2013.
Factory pcm, repinned body connector (c175b)
Had pats delete done on the pcm, but I like the control pack strategy better, and have working cruise with that strategy. It works without the PATS delete.
And than tuned it myself with SCT PRP

I’m assuming you repinned the PBH body harness connector? If so do you have the pin outs for the 06 connector and the coyote/PBH connector? Appreciate it!!

 

[Juice]

I’m assuming you repinned the PBH body harness connector

No PBH anything.
I used the factory engine harness, factory battery harness, factory pcm (not control pack) for a manual trans 13 GT, and a 70 pin connector. I moved the wires from the 50 pin connector on the body harness to rhe 70 pin connector for the coyote pcm.
It is the C175B on the wiring diagrams.

 

[amac20]

No PBH anything.
I used the factory engine harness, factory battery harness, factory pcm (not control pack) for a manual trans 13 GT, and a 70 pin connector. I moved the wires from the 50 pin connector on the body harness to rhe 70 pin connector for the coyote pcm.
It is the C175B on the wiring diagrams.

Alright cool, so did you ever get your tcs, abs, and ac working?

 

[Juice]

Alright cool, so did you ever get your tcs, abs, and ac working?

My car does not have no stinkin' abs. lol
A/C was no issue. My junkyard coyote came with an AC compressor. You also need a coyote car condenser. The compressor discharge line attaches at a different spot to the condenser. Finally, I had a custom low pressure line made from dryer to compressor. The junkyard cut the ac hoses, so I had the end to attach to the coyote compressor. I had the shop cut the dryer end off my stock ac, and used it to fab the custom line.
Simplest solution I could think of. All '13 parts, one custom ac line.
You will need to deal with the cycling switch, or deal with really cold ac till the evaporator freezes up. lol

 

[mattjames]

My car does not have no stinkin' abs. lol
A/C was no issue. My junkyard coyote came with an AC compressor. You also need a coyote car condenser. The compressor discharge line attaches at a different spot to the condenser. Finally, I had a custom low pressure line made from dryer to compressor. The junkyard cut the ac hoses, so I had the end to attach to the coyote compressor. I had the shop cut the dryer end off my stock ac, and used it to fab the custom line.
Simplest solution I could think of. All '13 parts, one custom ac line.
You will need to deal with the cycling switch, or deal with really cold ac till the evaporator freezes up. lol

I plan on using the 4.6 compressor and just wiring accordingly, and using the Coyote transducer switch, I suppose you didn't have that luxury using the 4.6 compressor since your was a 4.0, correct?

 

[mattjames]

I’m assuming you repinned the PBH body harness connector? If so do you have the pin outs for the 06 connector and the coyote/PBH connector? Appreciate it!!

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