6R80 transbrake you say?

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Imaginery bets? It's right there in black and white. But like I said, no sack.
Doesn't matter what drawing you're using. Your video proves exactly what I already told you. Wouldn't work.

Oh really?

Seems to hold just fine. I had no idea the converter would stall to 5K. The jerk at the end was me letting off the button hence the laughing.

Anyone local to us who is interested in seeing this in action first hand are welcome. Weather pending, we will be out this Sunday, 1/5.

http://littleriverdragway.com/schedule/

If I didn't have confidence in it working I wouldn't make that open invitation would I? No sack....rightttttt.....
 

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danner do u need me to bring the baddest off the shelf twin turbo car there for you to test on ?

Right now I can't raise the line pressure on a 13 without setting a code, I need to be able to turn those codes off. Once I get that corrected, I'd love to see what it would do on your car. Wouldn't have to bring it to me, I've known Daniel for a long time, I could just fill him in.
 

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I learned something today too. We've been just slamming the throttle down when on the brake, because well, that's how you drive a transbrake car. We purposely slowed down on the gas pedal so the video could clearly show how high we could go with the brake still holding. It was a real surprise how high it actually went, the converter is looser than I thought. The reason why is Newton's second law of motion, F=MA. So a brake can actually hold more torque if you accelerate up against it slowly instead of slamming the gas down. Something to consider when you see videos where the audio makes it clear the car isn't just going immediately to WOT. Turbochargers don't make the crankshaft suddenly unable to accelerate. :bs:
 

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Right now I can't raise the line pressure on a 13 without setting a code, I need to be able to turn those codes off. Once I get that corrected, I'd love to see what it would do on your car. Wouldn't have to bring it to me, I've known Daniel for a long time, I could just fill him in.

I will be with him thurs and fri at the track with my car.
 

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Oh really?


If I didn't have confidence in it working I wouldn't make that open invitation would I? No sack....rightttttt.....
REALLY, no sack. Could pull on the front of your underwear and a camel toe would show. Our brake doesn't work, footbrake, no WOT, etc. How about you pass around the collection plate and I show up to your track w cash and meet you and Larry?
 

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REALLY, no sack. Could pull on the front of your underwear and a camel toe would show. Our brake doesn't work, footbrake, no WOT, etc. How about you pass around the collection plate and I show up to your track w cash and meet you and Larry?

Character and personal insults is all you got.

All hype, no substance, 10.3's......
 
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Oh no, insults says the slander king. Baseless opinions, no facts other than he knows one of his designs doesn't work. Typical internet "If we can't do it, it's not possible you did it attitudes.

No substance lol. Says the guy making video to prove a transbrake doesn't work.
Come on, take the bet. I'll buy you a beer w your own money when we're done. And I'll give away 100 transbrakes for free. In a box, ready to go, on me.
 

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Oh no, insults says the slander king. Baseless opinions, no facts other than he knows one of his designs doesn't work. Typical internet "If we can't do it, it's not possible you did it attitudes.

No substance lol. Says the guy making video to prove a transbrake doesn't work.
Come on, take the bet. I'll buy you a beer w your own money when we're done. And I'll give away 100 transbrakes for free. In a box, ready to go, on me.

Long as I'm one of the 100. Sweet lol
 

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Oh no, insults says the slander king. Baseless opinions, no facts other than he knows one of his designs doesn't work. Typical internet "If we can't do it, it's not possible you did it attitudes.

No substance lol. Says the guy making video to prove a transbrake doesn't work.
Come on, take the bet. I'll buy you a beer w your own money when we're done. And I'll give away 100 transbrakes for free. In a box, ready to go, on me.

Hardly. I point out discrepancies and mis-leading information quoting said offenders own statements. Plenty of it in this thread.

Forgot to mention....if you are messing with SSA, it will be a mater of time before the trans will grenade. If you are, it would be a good time to find an alternate method.

Long as I'm one of the 100. Sweet lol

Says the guy with a 3v, non 6R80 equipped car. Now that is funny right there. :chairfall:
 
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Hardly. I point out discrepancies and mis-leading information quoting said offenders own statements. Plenty of it in this thread.
Hardly. The information doesn't sink in and you can't put it together in an accurate timeline. The difference between what the trans has held, and what he's launched with, etc. This is the extended version of you thinking chrome moly is lighter than mild steel

Forgot to mention....if you are messing with SSA, it will be a mater of time before the trans will grenade. If you are, it would be a good time to find an alternate method.
Here were are again. We've gone full circle. You make a video to show a tbrake that doesn't hold, based a circuit you think we use. Thanx for heads up though lol

Come on, take the bet if you're so confident. Win or lose I'll give out 100 tbrakes
 
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so are you going to take the bet?

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Facts:

1. I've told you exactly how I am doing this.
2. I've shown this transbrake holding, and have shown the point at which the brake finally fails to hold.
3. Every transbrake has a point at which it finally fails to hold.
4. I've shown how part throttle can make a transbrake hold more torque than if you immediately go WOT.
5. I've shown that an NA car on the footbrake sure gets up to a higher RPM far more quickly than the turbo car with the transbrake, even though they both have the same converter. This should be the opposite at WOT, more torque should flash that converter up higher, faster.

Now the other side:
1. Will not tell you how they are doing this.
2. Has not shown you a point where it finally fails to hold. Wants to act like such a point doesn't exist, I guess it is capable of stopping the rotation of the earth.
3. Won't admit to #3 above.
4. Part throttle against the brake can be clearly seen/heard in more than one of their videos. This allows the brake to hold more torque.
5. Takes seconds to get to the same RPM the NA car does in a fraction of a second, indicating part throttle. Never gets to the RPM the NA car does immediately, even though more torque should go even higher immediately. This indicates part throttle, not WOT.

Looks like one side is out in the open, while the other hides in the shadows with claims that aren't backed up. I don't expect somebody selling something to have to tell anyone how they did it, but I DO expect them to be able to back up any claims made about what the product can actually do. I've shown you an NA car stalling a 3C converter to over 4k RPM on the footbrake. If his brake can hold everything he can give it and he makes all the torque like he claims, he should be able to easily show you a video of that turbo car taking that same 3C right up to 5k RPM or more, and it would be readily apparent from the audio/video that the car was in fact at WOT against the brake. Even with the doubts raised about his product months ago, such a video STILL doesn't exist. Why? How hard can it be? Instead, what we do have was explained so well elsewhere that I will quote it here: "you're like the fat redheaded kid down the block who claims his dad can beat up every other kids dad and keeps saying "betcha, betcha" over and over again"

And if you can't do that, because going WOT will make the trans slip, just like I am seeing, just admit it and why lie about it anyway? What other trans can you just bolt in a trans brake valve body to a bone stock transmission and expect it to have a huge capacity? Not a one that I've ever dealt with.
 

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I don't get it at all. CPR is confident enough to put $10k on the line. If you are so sure his doesn't work then take him up on the bet. If he's making it all up you get $10k and bragging rights.

Demanding that he jump through ever changing hoops and criticizing his numbers when he does isn't the best way to state your case imo. Take him up on the bet and take $10k from him.
 

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I don't get it at all. CPR is confident enough to put $10k on the line. If you are so sure his doesn't work then take him up on the bet. If he's making it all up you get $10k and bragging rights.

Demanding that he jump through ever changing hoops and criticizing his numbers when he does isn't the best way to state your case imo. Take him up on the bet and take $10k from him.

This ... All I see on 3 fourms is WBT & KDanner or Beefcake going back and forth with CPRsm and no one has taken the bet. Fuck, if you guys are so sure that it doesn't work properly then get $3333.33 from all 3 of you or just 5k from WBT & KDanner and go for it.

That's not to say I am calling you guys out or anything but I think all the videos and bullshit from both side of the camps can stop and be put to rest.
 

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8/31/13 at Huntsville drag way high for the DA was 3191
8/31/13 at Dallas race way high for the DA was 3213

Yea...really...
I do have an interest in this despite some of your beliefs. I have been waiting for the Tremors to come out for over a year now. 6.5 class in the car, 7.0/5 class in the truck?

I didn't race in dallas. But at TAD I had seen da of 3900.

As far as the tremor dealer here in Columbus GA has one sitting on lot. Red one.

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I am completely neutral in this argument, but I disagree with your stance on the bet. Danner is not saying that he doesn't believe he has one that holds. He would just like to see a clear video because he is doing his best and probably feels like he has hit a wall. The video will likely just encourage him to keep pushing for it. But what does he get? Just guys in here nut riding and providing no help. Oh it works bet. Blah blah blah. No one bets 10k like that. Provide some tech help to this thread Dustin. Stop parading around. If you got it cool. We would appreciate a good video. That's all. I believe you have successfully made one, but don't think it's right the way you are treating other enthusiast who just want to see proof. This is like me saying I ran 10.2 completely stock. It's never been done people would want good proof....

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Dustin help out, or please for the love of everything stop begging people to take an unrealistic bet. Make a video and put the skeptics to rest.
I'll bet you 1k but I want 50 of them. Lol

Danner- keep pushing you guys will figure it out.
 

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I am completely neutral in this argument, but I disagree with your stance on the bet. Danner is not saying that he doesn't believe he has one that holds. He would just like to see a clear video because he is doing his best and probably feels like he has hit a wall. The video will likely just encourage him to keep pushing for it. But what does he get? Just guys in here nut riding and providing no help. Oh it works bet. Blah blah blah. No one bets 10k like that. Provide some tech help to this thread Dustin. Stop parading around. If you got it cool. We would appreciate a good video. That's all. I believe you have successfully made one, but don't think it's right the way you are treating other enthusiast who just want to see proof. This is like me saying I ran 10.2 completely stock. It's never been done people would want good proof....

Cliff notes-
Dustin help out, or please for the love of everything stop begging people to take an unrealistic bet. Make a video and put the skeptics to rest.
I'll bet you 1k but I want 50 of them. Lol

Danner- keep pushing you guys will figure it out.

What started the whole thing? Dustin said he had it figured out and nobody believed him? Or were people mad because he wasn't going to sell it without his kit?

Dustin has been very straight forward in my dealings with him. Danner has provided knowledge in the past and he's another person I wouldn't bat an eye in believing what he says.

These threads just make no sense whatsoever. At least from my standpoint.

Dustin, if you are going to give them away anyway then why not post it now? I'm pretty sure that Danner will figure it out eventually. You could post the schematic and end all of this nonsense.
 

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What started the whole thing? Dustin, if you are going to give them away anyway then why not post it now? I'm pretty sure that Danner will figure it out eventually. You could post the schematic and end all of this nonsense.

I believe he said he will give them away if they take the bet..
 

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