Steeda tuning request form...CAI not listed, what to do?

dre256 said:

K&N bought Airaid back in 2015 I believe it was, K&N also owns AEM intakes also. I think they bought them back around 2010. If you see any videos of how filters are made you will see all 3 companies at the K&N production facility.

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Upon further research, it appears K&N engineering did, in fact, acquire The Airaid Filter Company in May of 2015. Therefore I stand corrected!

http://www.aftermarketnews.com/kn-engineering-buys-airaid/

The roush cai I have is not the same as the airaid as mentioned in a previous post.
We went through this in a different thread. The one that is same as airaid is the 05-09 and has the removeable insert.
Mine is for 10+ and doesnt have the insert.

I emailed steeda and they said they cant tune for this cai and even though its a "no tune required" that I cant just choose "stock" on the tune request form.
He said id have to buy a supported cai , put stock airbox back on (dont have) , or send sct x4 back for refund.

I dont know what to do now. I have LT headers that I eventually want to put on when i get h pipe and catback bought, also have some 18" staggered bullitt wheels with smaller tires i want to put on so probably need the tuner which means $400 for the steeda cai

GET A DIFFERENT TUNE!!!!!!!!!!

skwerl said:

GET A DIFFERENT TUNE!!!!!!!!!!

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THIS^

As previously mentioned, go with Lund, VMP or consider Lito as he's highly regarded as one of the best tuning specialists on this forum for the 4.6L 3v engines.

The SCT X4 is not locked to Steeda. You can use it with any tuner you want. It's not like a cellphone/carrier situation.

I spent many evenings reading reviews on brenspeed, bama, and steeda. Ive heard lund and vmp mentioned dozens of times guys and I understand they offer a better custom tune.

I chose steeda because of its conservative and safe tunes for life.
I have alot of mods in mind and dont want to pay $50 everytime I add or change something.
When I get to my end goal (either fully bolted on mods with cams or a conservative low boost setup) then I will finalize my build with a really good custom tune but i just cant see paying extra retune fees every step of the way.

Right now i need to figure out what cai to get. The roush cai the car came with is not supported by steeda and I dont have the stock airbox.

The steeda cai specifically made for the 2010 looks nice but is $400. I found a used like new airaid for the 2010 for $200.... it has the removeable insert tube for bigger maf diameter but steeda doesnt give a part number list of supported cai's just the list of brand names which doesnt help since the 2010 is an oddball and theres 2 or 3 cai systems by each brand that are for the 2010 and not sure which ones will work.

This is my first time tuning so I do have alot to learn. I thought I would fill out a list of mods I had and they would compile the tune, I didnt know there was small list of supported mods/brands. Im sure its probably not that way with other tuners out there just dont want to spend more money to get another list my cai is not on so figure i should just buy a new cai.
I know a cai is not going to buy much hp over just a tune but would a good large diameter maf cai support headers,offroad h, hotrod cams, and intake down the road?

The stock air intake will support all those mods. You only need a CAI once you go to forced induction (blower or turbo). Every rookie thinks they need a CAI because that is what is advertised the heaviest. You have a half dozen guys here with years of experience with modded cars, built engines and forced induction trying to beat some sense into your thick skull but it is proving to be very difficult.

The generic 'tunes for life' is no bargain and you will end up regretting it if you go that route.

So what should i do? Keep the roush cai (dont have stock airbox) and just wait to tune it untill i get my headers/exhaust on then get tune?
Will lund or others be able to tune with roush cai?

It just kind of sucks....just bought $400 handheld and wanted to get at least some kind of generic tune on it to hold me over untill i get exhaust done

deezdrama said:

It just kind of sucks....just bought $400 handheld and wanted to get at least some kind of generic tune on it to hold me over untill i get exhaust done

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So just get one. You have been given many suggestions as to which tuner to use. Or maybe it would be better for you to just leave the car stock and sell any parts you have for it.

deezdrama said:

So what should i do? Keep the roush cai (dont have stock airbox) and just wait to tune it untill i get my headers/exhaust on then get tune?
Will lund or others be able to tune with roush cai?

It just kind of sucks....just bought $400 handheld and wanted to get at least some kind of generic tune on it to hold me over untill i get exhaust done

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I give up. That question has been answered many times already and you are too stupid to read the replies because you already have your head wrapped around what you want to hear.

I quit.

skwerl said:

Why would you believe that Lund or VMP would charge you $200 every time you changed something? They may charge you $200 if you add a supercharger but minor revisions are free as far as I know.

Edit: I just looked and it appears VMP charges $49 for tune updates. I wasn't aware of that.

http://www.vmpperformance.com/Custom-Tune-Update-s/111.htm

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You're right they shouldn't charge you for minor upgrades

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Just as skerwl mentioned in his response, generic tunes for life are no real bargain compared to custom tunes that are written exclusively for your particular application. Also as ox white mentioned in his post, the SCT X-4 can be used with any tuning vendor of your choice as they are not locked to Steeda nor any other tuning vendor for that matter. If your unable to afford a custom dyno or custom remote tune at the present time, then I would consider contacting either Brenspeed, Bama or JDM engineering and have them write you a generic tuning file for your Roush/Airaid CAI in which they'll send to you via E-mail to upload into your SCT X-4 programmer as a custom tune file and then you just simply download the tuning file into your car's OBD II port. Problem solved!

skwerl said:

I give up. That question has been answered many times already and you are too stupid to read the replies because you already have your head wrapped around what you want to hear.

I quit.

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Wow dude really? You have to take it there because your the damn forum god?

Sorry asking questions means Im stupid to you but how the hell am I suppossed to get varying opinions if I just listen to your word like its sacred scripture.

All you do is chime in and say get lund tune, get lund tune, get lund tune.
Ill get a damn lund tune when I have enough mods to benefit and justify price.

This 2010 is a little confusing because you have parts in the 05-09 range and you also have parts in the 10+ range that pop up so im just looking for a little insight here maybe hoping someone with a 2010 will chime in or steeda chime in.

I understand I dont have to stick with steeda but why all the hate against them. Ive read nothing but good things about them and their tunes.
Yes they are conservative, yes they are generic, but i want to stay safe untill im done modding and will take the damn thing to a dyno.
Im more worried about longevity than getting every once of power out of it right now.
Im wanting headers and a cam for the sound and if i gain 10hp then thats cool.... is that logical.... maybe not.
I always wanted a 4.6 mustang to mod and mess with so i went that route. I could of got a coyote and had more hp stock than ill probably ever get out of this but thats not what I wanted.
Im just here asking question. You "quite"
I didnt ask for you to start.

I understand the stock air system flows just fine especially on the 2010 and that an aftermarket cai isnt really needed.
But.... i have this roush aftermarket and no stock cai..... i have tunes at steeda that i just paid for and the filter needs replaced anyway so instead of paying $100 for a filter I can get whole new cai system for double and some change and be able to use a tune (reason why I bought it)
Will i get 20-30hp....no
Will it be as good as lund..... no
But it has to add something or people wouldnt be buying the crap.

Brand loyalty is a mfer so yeah I hear you spouting off lund.... and i took note the 10 other times youve said it. I will keep it in mind for later but for right now I just want to bolt crap on and tune even if gains are marginal its still working torwards my goal.

Im a little pissed steeda dont let you see supported mod list before you buy but its too late, thats who I chose and who ill go with untill im done with mods and ready for "final" tune.
Im just looking for opinions on which cai is best bang for the buck. They have to net some gains even if minimal.

As I just mentioned 30 min ago. If your unable to afford a custom dyno or custom remote tune, you can have either Brenspeed, Bama or JDM engineering send you a generic tune file via E-mail for your Roush CAI if you want to keep it in which you'll then upload into your SCT X-4 programmer as a custom tune file and then download the file into your vehicle's OBD II port. Otherwise, if you want to use just your canned Steeda tunes which obviously don't support the Roush CAI, then you'll have no other option but to sell your Roush CAI and then purchase a Steeda or other CAI's which are supported instead. As a last resort, you could also do a google search for "OEM" take off parts and purchase a 2010 "OEM" stock air intake to use with your canned Steeda tunes as well

He has a 2010. I also have a 2010. The oem airbox on the 2010 flows 800 cfm with the oem paper filter. It will flow 960 cfm if you install the K+N panel filter. You require 1.5 cfm per 1 crank HP.
The oem airbox + oem paper filter is good for 533 crank hp...and 640 crank hp if the K+N is used.
There is probably several 2010 oem airbox's floating about. They flow good cause they have the..'snorkel' that goes from oem airbox..to the front grille. The 05-09 airboxs don't flow any where near those numbers, hence the availability of aftermarket cai's. Just a few years ago, there were ZERO aftermarket cai's available for the 2010.

The oem airbox's on the 11-14 cars flow a little less than the 2010, like 768 cfm with the oem filter. With the roush blower on the 11-14 cars, they don't use the roush cone filter till you get to their 625 hp option. The 575hp base option gets the oem airbox.

If steeda can't tune for your cai, how do you know they can tune for what ever brand of LT's you plan to buy ? Or some other mod, like the FRPP twin 62mm TB, various brands of cams, etc, etc . As is, they can't tune for your cai.

I had VMP tune mine, and it's dead on. Get VMP, LUND, or LITO to tune it. All 3 of them will nail it, within 1-2 attempts. You can data log it yourself, doing a 3rd gear pull on the hwy. ( aprx 95 mph @ 6 k rpm, in 3rd gear on the 2010 automatic, with the oem 3.31 rear gear.)

VMP will unlock all sorts of stuff in the SCT tuner, so you can fine tweak stuff yourself if required.

If doing mods, do them in groups, then get a tune for the latest round of mods. IE: twin 62mm TB + cams.... or cams + LT's...or all 3 items in one shot. As long as the tuner knows exactly what mods you have done, and what you installed for mods, they can tune it. Heck, they can also tune for folks that chopped out the vanes in the roush air box lids. With the roush blower setups, roush replaces the oem airbox lid with their own. The new airbox lid came with vanes built into it to straighten out the airflow past the MAF. JDM engineering discovered that with the vanes removed with a dremel, that an aditional 7 hp was obtained.

VMP + Lito will tune for any fuel you use, and whether it has ethanol in it...or not. I had VMP tune for my chevron 94, which has NO ethanol in it. Typ gasoline with 10% ethanol added, will lean out the AFR by .3 to .5

I left my airbox lid vanes intact. VMP took all the info, LT's used, etc, etc...and the SCT was shipped to me with the tune already on it ! Plug and play, just stuff it into the OBD port, load it in. One minor tweak was done to the tune after that to nail it dead on. In that case, VMP e-mailed me the new tune. New email tune was then downloaded into the SCT hand held tuner. Then out into the driveway, and new tune loaded.

OP, did you get this situated? Happy to help - you can email me at [email protected] & I will connect you with Matt - the person that writes our tunes.

Our tunes are written specifically for your car & your mods - it is not a canned tune.

Steeda's tunes are safe, reliable & powerful - we offer that peace of mind that when you run with Steeda, you won't experience issues with your investment.

Lastly, we offer tunes for life - its a great deal!

Happy to help ... oh & we are currently running our President's Day Sale - up to 15% off on Steeda Manufactured Parts.

Best Regards!

TJ

Contact lito. He will revise your tune no charge if you change and add parts. I have added long tubes, throttle, and other crap. Started out tuning with him cammed. But steeda should be able to get you a base tune file and log for them to get a revised tune and this way they can get a proper tune for your CAI. If they cannot or wont do that then I would not go with their tune. Any tuner should be able to tune for any CAI. At least give you a base tune to run a log on and revise if not they are not a good tuner for you.

I have an airaid but I added to the shield they have. I put a top to it plus I have flex piping that runs from the front lower part of the bumper to feed up into my airaid box. Nice fresh cool air.

Im looking at the jlt series 3 cai.
Just need to make sure its supported by steedas tuning dept.

Again.... my filter on this "no tune" roush is shot so instead of buying new filter it makes sense to me to buy the jlt series 3 that requires tune for a few more bucks even if I only gain 5hp.

https://www.americanmuscle.com/jlt-series3-cai-10gt.html