Vorshlag Bilstein street package or KW V1 coilover package

Mustang259

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Planning to upgrade stock suspension on my 13 gt vert with brembo pkg to either the Vorshlag Bilstein Street package with Ford Racing springs or opt for the KW Coil over V1 package, both are similar in price except that the Vorshlag package includes a camber plate, which is a big deal and I will have to add the camber plate to the KW package which will obviously increase the cost.
I am NOT seeking to race or autocross this car but I do drive it hard in the hills of SE TN so cornering is the goal and I simply want to improve the suspension.
Also, does anyone currently using the vorshlag camber plates have an opinion on added NVH to the vehicle? Ive not read any comments about extra noise or vibration while using the plates but I do know that the upper spring seats directly on the metal portion of the camber plate, unlike the stock top hat which uses a rubber insulator.
Just to summarize, I am not a racer or auto cross participant which is why I did not post this in the corner carving section, just looking for opinions/experience with either of the two mentioned set ups.
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I have KW V3's all the way around and Maximum Motorsports CC plates. Love this set up. The adjustability is great for whatever you want to do, from cruising to racing, it will do it all.

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Interested in what people say here. I have been trying to decide on the Vorshlag setup or a set of Fortune Auto Coilovers myself.
 

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Hard to do any direct comparisons because people rarely have used both.

I've had the Vorshlag Bilstein street setup with Ford P springs on my car for about 60k miles. My car is a year round daily driver in Boston that gets used for HPDE days in the summer. For these purposes I have been very pleased with this setup. I would like more spring rate and higher end dampers on the track but this is a good compromise setup. No extra NVH with the Vorshlag cc plates. I don't know how useful cc plates would be for daily street driving but they noticeably improve front end grip and reduce tire shoulder wear during track days.

Common spring rates, including the setups you're thinking about, are at post #5 on this thread: https://www.s197forum.com/threads/worth-a-switch-from-p-to-k-frpp-springs.127549/

Good luck!
 

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I have the Vorshlag Bilstein setups on two S197s, one with P springs and one with K springs. Both ride very well and I'd give the P springs the nod for a better overall setup. Both S197s have been AutoX'ed and each setup does very well to keep the Mustang's in the top third of overall times and usually 3rd or 4th in their respective classes. Both S197s have roughly 25,000 miles on their setups without any issues.
 

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oldVOR, can you say a bit more about the K vs. P springs on the Vorshlag Bilstein setup? Why do you give the nod to P springs overall? I'm thinking of swapping from P to K. Thanks!
 

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Based on these responses it seems the Vorshlag set up will be a better fit for my purposes, I have previously discussed the P springs with others and everyone was pleased with the performance. Since mine is a DD I really don't want to lower it much more than 1.5 inches anyway. I appreciate the comments especially about the lack of NVH with the camber plates.
 

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With the P springs, the front doesn't "seem" to dive as much under braking and the rear doesn't "seem" to squat as much under acceleration. Both ends feel a bit more compliant when AutoX'ing and not as harsh when DD. Both Mustang's are running the same LCAs (Eibach), UCAs (Roush) and swaybars (BMR). The only difference between the two is the P spring Mustang is using FRPP front LCAs and I wouldn't think those alone are a big enough difference to make the P's "feel" better.
 

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