Need to pick some brains... Hot Rod Cam Installation.

Exit Wounds · Apr 20, 2019

Got cams in, but am struggling with timing marks etc. At no point did the cam sprockets come off the chain, but the alignment marks and chain links just don't line up with anything like at the start of the installation. I made marks on them, but it seems they're off. Black links are off.

Does the rotation throw them off when turning the motor over? It seems to rotate fine.

I'm about to pull the timing cover... UGH.

dark steed · Apr 20, 2019

IIRC, they only line up every second rotation...

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RocketcarX · Apr 21, 2019

They only line up about every 75 rotations, if the marks were on the first time and you used the wedge tool you're good. IF you have even a little down you need to pull the timing cover and start over.

JeremyH · Apr 21, 2019

Yes it's normal. That's why most guys( for peace of mind that it hasnt slipped) sharpie or paint pen some markers from chain to gear before removing the cam bolt.

Monkeyporn · Apr 21, 2019

Exit Wounds said:
Got cams in, but am struggling with timing marks etc. At no point did the cam sprockets come off the chain, but the alignment marks and chain links just don't line up with anything like at the start of the installation. I made marks on them, but it seems they're off. Black links are off.

Does the rotation throw them off when turning the motor over? It seems to rotate fine.

I'm about to pull the timing cover... UGH.

DID you put engine on TDC before beginning if not that could be your problem.

Exit Wounds · Apr 21, 2019

I followed instructions, used the wedge, TDC, as best as I could tell. The fasers and chain were marked with paint pen but in between installing sides I rotated the motor to be sure first side was right. Everything rotated fine. After the rotation , none of the chain marks lined up with marks on fasers. The fasers do look like they are in the right place , with crank on its mark and #1 piston up. You can see chain marks are off 1 link on each side after multiple rotations. I added marks on the links after I rotated the motor. The Black links are in the same orientation, one off.

Exit Wounds · Apr 21, 2019

Made a stronger effort to put crank in proper orientation. These pics are after adjusting a little.

Exit Wounds · Apr 21, 2019

RocketcarX said:
They only line up about every 75 rotations, if the marks were on the first time and you used the wedge tool you're good. IF you have even a little down you need to pull the timing cover and start over.

A little down?

Exit Wounds · Apr 21, 2019

I was contemplating rolling the motor backwards... to see if I can get it back to the point it started.

06redgt · Apr 21, 2019

As long as the marks were lined up when you pulled the wedge, you should be fine. That's all I looked at when I did mine. If you rotated the motor after pulling the wedge the marks might not line up anymore until you do enough rotations (sounds like 75 from what people are saying).

RocketcarX · Apr 21, 2019

Exit Wounds said:
I was contemplating rolling the motor backwards... to see if I can get it back to the point it started.

no sir

RocketcarX · Apr 21, 2019

Exit Wounds said:
A little down?

Doubt* auto correct got me, lol

davidjurss1 · Apr 23, 2019

Ok, stupid question, but did you install the phaser on the cam, and then put the chain on?

When I did mine, the stock cam rotated a bit when I removed the phaser. I put my Hot Rod cam back in, and had to use channel locks with a rag to turn the cam a little to get it to seat in the phaser correctly.

If you've spun the motor since the install, and they were lined up correctly then, it's going to be a little off. As someone has stated above, it takes several rotations before they'll line back up again

Exit Wounds · Apr 23, 2019

No the chain and faser together were layed to the side and cams went in. I did have to manipulate the cams a little to get them to line up with the sprocket dowel.

After the feedback Im going to once again... send it.

Ill let ya know how it goes.

Exit Wounds · Apr 25, 2019

Well.. It lives. but sounds a bit rough. Motor sounds fine, no noise. Running stock tune. Anyone have a line on a good custom tuner and tune for K&N CAI, Xpipe with cats and axle back.. and of course, new Hot Rod Cams.

AndrewNagle · Apr 25, 2019

Exit Wounds said:
Well.. It lives. but sounds a bit rough. Motor sounds fine, no noise. Running stock tune. Anyone have a line on a good custom tuner and tune for CAI, Xpipe with cats and axle back.. and of course, new Hot Rod Cams.

@lito

davidjurss1 · Apr 25, 2019

+2 on Lito. He just tuned my build and it runs great. 0 drivability issues You'll have to datalog each revision, but he'll get it dialed in within 3 to 4 revisions depending on your mods.

RocketcarX · Apr 25, 2019

Lito

http://www.tudyno.com

Phil1098 · Apr 25, 2019

Lito, he fixed all kinds of stuff for me. It is clean and strong from idle to 7,000. I told him I hated the first 30 seconds revving to the moon on a cold motor bullshit that Ford had going on. Now my car just starts and settles immediately. Lito.

eighty6gt · Apr 25, 2019

FREE LITO!!

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