2020 GT500 DCT 750 HP - NEW PICS ADDED 1/14 - Pricing added

people who don't like dct have not been in a car with a good one, like porsche's pdk.

most other stuff is junk.

Im over here just wondering how many of you have actually driven a DCT car. How many of you have put one in manual mode and ACTUALLY had to shift the car?

jewc75 said:

Im over here just wondering how many of you have actually driven a DCT car. How many of you have put one in manual mode and ACTUALLY had to shift the car?

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I have. You definitely can't compare the auto's with paddle shifters to the DCT. If the time ever comes for a new toy it's going to have the DCT.

I've never driven a car with paddle shifters so I can't say I like or dislike them. I can see that steering wheel mounted shifters would be tricky to operate if you needed to shift gears while turning a corner, so column-mounted shifters at least keeps them fixed in the same location regardless of whether you're going in a straight line or round a corner.
I'm sure it would feel strange at first but once you get used to them, they could be fun.

jewc75 said:

Im over here just wondering how many of you have actually driven a DCT car. How many of you have put one in manual mode and ACTUALLY had to shift the car?

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Not sure if that's even relevant, what are they going to find out that it shifts fast and easy?
Everyone already knows that part.

Dino Dino Bambino said:

I've never driven a car with paddle shifters so I can't say I like or dislike them. I can see that steering wheel mounted shifters would be tricky to operate if you needed to shift gears while turning a corner, so column-mounted shifters at least keeps them fixed in the same location regardless of whether you're going in a straight line or round a corner.
I'm sure it would feel strange at first but once you get used to them, they could be fun.

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They are making the paddles a lot longer, (with a curve to em) so even though mounted to the column, you can still shift on corners. Ideally, I would prefer the right paddle for upshifts.... and left paddle for downshifts. I wonder if the paddle functions can be swapped ?

Does the DCT have enough smarts so you don't do something stupid... like drop down one gear too many, and over rev the eng?

good grief of course.

The Macan of course shifts like dogshit, even though it is a DCT.

I only drove a cayman/boxster s.

It was fantastic.

Can't imagine the 911 turbo. The GT500 is going to be as good or better. Anyone who doesn't like it is just poor and likes chinese getrags.

eighty6gt said:

Anyone who doesn't like it is just poor and likes chinese getrags.

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Quite the sweeping generality there chief

T56 Magnum XL here, by Tremec.
So people shouldn't prefer a real manual transmission anymore?

you can use anything you like, just don't feel too bad when you get blown into the weeds by a nice taycan here and there. 2 speed powerglide in that thing...

eighty6gt said:

you can use anything you like, just don't feel too bad when you get blown into the weeds by a nice taycan here and there. 2 speed powerglide in that thing...

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Oh I won't feel any certain type of way, I just have a slow street car that goes to the drag strip once in a while. I can't go without my stick and my third pedal it would be too boring.

fdjizm said:

Not sure if that's even relevant, what are they going to find out that it shifts fast and easy?
Everyone already knows that part.

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Frank there is just as much thinking with a DCT (in manual mode) as there is with a manual. You still have to know when to upshift and downshift. There is just no clutch pedal.

Pentalab said:

They are making the paddles a lot longer, (with a curve to em) so even though mounted to the column, you can still shift on corners. Ideally, I would prefer the right paddle for upshifts.... and left paddle for downshifts. I wonder if the paddle functions can be swapped ?

Does the DCT have enough smarts so you don't do something stupid... like drop down one gear too many, and over rev the eng?

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Nah they arent that smart. I hit the limiter all the time during testing, lol. My paddles are mounted to the steering wheel and it definitely takes some getting used to shifting entering and exiting a corner. left is for downshifting and right is for upshifting.

eighty6gt said:

The GT500 is going to be as good or better. Anyone who doesn't like it is just poor and likes chinese getrags.

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First off, my manual isn't a Chinese getrag. The older 2005-10 cars had the Tremec TR-3650 manual trans that were manufactured in North America. As mentioned in a previous post, I prefer the fun factor of rowing through my own gears, despite the fact that a DCT automated manual can shift milliseconds faster over a traditional manual. As for being poor is concerned? If I wanted to own either a traditional automatic or an automated manual equipped DCT, I'd have one. For myself personally, it's a matter of personal preference and IMO the current GT350 offers the better performance value for your dollar over the upcoming 2020 GT500 hands down!

Dino Dino Bambino said:

That's if you like Play Station.

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ROFLMFAO

Pentalab said:

Does the DCT have enough smarts so you don't do something stupid... like drop down one gear too many, and over rev the eng?

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DCT's won't go down 2 gears at a time like a manual can. One clutch controls one shaft with one set of gears (1,3,5,7), the other clutch controls the other shaft (2,4,6) so you can't go from 5th to 3rd without passing through 4th as that shift fork needs to move from 5th to 3rd. Basically the clutches take turns in order for the synchros and shift forks to engage smoothly as it doesn't completely uncouple the engine from the transmission like a true manual clutch setup does.

jewc75 said:

Frank there is just as much thinking with a DCT (in manual mode) as there is with a manual. You still have to know when to upshift and downshift. There is just no clutch pedal

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Now why in the world would you want to be on MANUAL mode
Are you saying its more fun to shift??

Its an all around car. When im in traffic i dont have to do anything but drive, no shifting or using the clutch. When im corner carving i can put it in manual mode and control what the car does.

If the primary aim of buying a 2020 GT500 is the performance, you're better off getting the much lighter '13-'14 GT500. Even though it came with almost 100hp less from the factory, it's easy to extract that from the 5.8L Trinity engine. With the standard 6-speed manual tranny, it's a more raw driving experience for the purist who wants to preserve the skill of manually changing gears instead of relying on electronics.

Dino Dino Bambino said:

If the primary aim of buying a 2020 GT500 is the performance, you're better off getting the much lighter '13-'14 GT500. Even though it came with almost 100hp less from the factory, it's easy to extract that from the 5.8L Trinity engine. With the standard 6-speed manual tranny, it's a more raw driving experience for the purist who wants to preserve the skill of manually changing gears instead of relying on electronics

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I would tend to agree with this, however this is where I make my argument. Why is Ford making such a change away from what the GT500 used to be? Is that really what the market wants? If it is, I can't say that Ford is doing wrong, it just puts me in the minority I guess.

Ford is moving towards a more global market.

I will also say that the GT350 will be the better track car of the two, similar to the Z06 and Z51 vette's. Most vette guys will say the Z51 is the better track car. The Supercharger, HE, and all the plumbing add a lot of weight to the front end of the car, plus that SC adds a lot of heat once you start getting on them, so cooling will be the big issue on track with the GT500, and I hope they build that DCT trans to handle the heat much better than they did the 10 speed.