What have you done to your mustang today?

1950StangJump$

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Sure, here is where it sits right behind the headlight in the fender well, tight fit in there but mounted it diagonally so it's flat with the fender liner and mounted it with some zip ties to it's corner holes. Really can't get any other size in there, the fan is 120mm Square x38mm thick.

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And it's cool air source...
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I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the IAT drop, great for waiting on line at the drag strip and not cooking your shit.

I wonder . . . the Killa Chilla is much maligned. But, what if you simply ran a 2" insulated tube from an HVAC supply under the dash in your car, back out through the firewall, and into your intake tube upstream from the MAF?

Likely wouldn't make a huge difference to your interior to pull that much out, but I wonder what it would do to IATs to have 40*F air conditioned air introduced into your intake tube?
 

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I wonder . . . the Killa Chilla is much maligned. But, what if you simply ran a 2" insulated tube from an HVAC supply under the dash in your car, back out through the firewall, and into your intake tube upstream from the MAF?

Likely wouldn't make a huge difference to your interior to pull that much out, but I wonder what it would do to IATs to have 40*F air conditioned air introduced into your intake tube?

Your onto something here !! And where did the 120mm, 12 vdc fan come from? Never seen one with > 120 cfm. I believe the AC is..'off' when gas mashed ? Perhaps a 2.5" - 3" -4" diam tube would work.... but that's a huge hole in firewall.
 

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I wonder . . . the Killa Chilla is much maligned. But, what if you simply ran a 2" insulated tube from an HVAC supply under the dash in your car, back out through the firewall, and into your intake tube upstream from the MAF?

Likely wouldn't make a huge difference to your interior to pull that much out, but I wonder what it would do to IATs to have 40*F air conditioned air introduced into your intake tube?

Sounds cool, a bit more than I am willing to do though lol. But yea 40 degree air coming in would make for a nice cool down for sure.

Your onto something here !! And where did the 120mm, 12 vdc fan come from? Never seen one with > 120 cfm. I believe the AC is..'off' when gas mashed ? Perhaps a 2.5" - 3" -4" diam tube would work.... but that's a huge hole in firewall.

The fan is made by Delta, it's a server fan most people wouldn't buy these for their PC's as they are loud as hell, draw some amps and are expensive.

https://www.frozencpu.com/products/...ead_PFB1212UHE-F00_No_RPM.html?tl=g36c781s562

Dimensions: 120 x 120 x 38 mm
Power Leads Length: 300 mm
Rated Voltage: 12 V DC
Operating Voltage: 8.0 to 13.2 V DC
Input Current: 4.00 A
Input Power: 48.00 W
Speed: 7160 RPM
Max. Airflow: 252.85 CFM
7.160 m^3/min
Max. Air Pressure: 1.412 IN H2O
35.877 mmH2O
Noise: 66.5 dBA

I am actually wondering if I can fit two 92mm fans side by side (175cfm each) in for a combine CFM of 350.

https://www.frozencpu.com/products/...an_-_17503_CFM_PFB0912DHE.html?tl=g36c781s700

RPM: 8000 RPM
CFM: 175.03 CFM
Noise Level: 66.5 dba
Watt: 37.20W
Amps: 3.72A
Connector: 3 wire bare lead
 

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Your onto something here !! And where did the 120mm, 12 vdc fan come from? Never seen one with > 120 cfm. I believe the AC is..'off' when gas mashed ? Perhaps a 2.5" - 3" -4" diam tube would work.... but that's a huge hole in firewall.

Sounds cool, a bit more than I am willing to do though lol. But yea 40 degree air coming in would make for a nice cool down for sure.



The fan is made by Delta, it's a server fan most people wouldn't buy these for their PC's as they are loud as hell, draw some amps and are expensive.

https://www.frozencpu.com/products/...ead_PFB1212UHE-F00_No_RPM.html?tl=g36c781s562

Dimensions: 120 x 120 x 38 mm
Power Leads Length: 300 mm
Rated Voltage: 12 V DC
Operating Voltage: 8.0 to 13.2 V DC
Input Current: 4.00 A
Input Power: 48.00 W
Speed: 7160 RPM
Max. Airflow: 252.85 CFM
7.160 m^3/min
Max. Air Pressure: 1.412 IN H2O
35.877 mmH2O
Noise: 66.5 dBA

I am actually wondering if I can fit two 92mm fans side by side (175cfm each) in for a combine CFM of 350.

https://www.frozencpu.com/products/...an_-_17503_CFM_PFB0912DHE.html?tl=g36c781s700

RPM: 8000 RPM
CFM: 175.03 CFM
Noise Level: 66.5 dba
Watt: 37.20W
Amps: 3.72A
Connector: 3 wire bare lead

Yea, the A/C turns off at full throttle. But, for my KB, temp under boost has been manageable . . . its getting it to cool back down after temps have gone up, that's the challenge. Theoretically, introducing 40ish degree air would help.

But, was thinking, there would undoubtedly be condensation issues -- meaning you might be sucking water into your intake. So, that would be a deal breaker.
 

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Yea, the A/C turns off at full throttle. But, for my KB, temp under boost has been manageable . . . its getting it to cool back down after temps have gone up, that's the challenge. Theoretically, introducing 40ish degree air would help.

But, was thinking, there would undoubtedly be condensation issues -- meaning you might be sucking water into your intake. So, that would be a deal breaker.

The 8 x plastic runner's on the NA cars won't absorb / retain heat like an aluminum manifold does on a PD setup. At a red light/idle / <20 mph, the air is going in so slow, it gets re-heated by the al manifold. The AL PD blower casing is hot, ditto with AL heads / AL block etc.....it all ends up being one heat soaked 200 F mess. Last night, 60F outside, yet IAT's were 120 F.... while cruising at 30 mph. Get into the gas just a bit, or drop down a gear, and IAT's drop like a rock. His 253 cfm fan is best suited for NA applications.... but may well have merit on a PD setup. It would be a good experiment. Assuming the cabin filter is used, all, or a big portion of the AC output's blower...routed to CAI / air box, via firewall would be an asset....at least on hot days /staging lines etc.

The cold air from the AC should be devoid of any humidity....so condensation should be a non issue.

On hot days, with AC on, eng fan is on high speed mode....continuously. Even with AC off, and air coming out top vents, eng fan will be on high speed... as the AC will be on, but in de-humidifier mode.

Roush runs the hot eng coolant crossover integral / along the front / leading edge of their AL manifold... which just ensures the AL manifold stays hot at all times..... which fortunately compounds the problems.
 

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Drove it to work today while the truck is in the shop.. I forgot just how bad morning traffic is with a standard, at least I got some miles on it for a change!
 

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FYI for anyone thinking about it like I did, trying to insulate your MAF housing from heat doesn't work. Glad I at least tried it though, it's slower to get warm but once it does the heat from the MAF housing can't escape and it does not cool for a VERY VERY long time.
So that's a no go! As soon as I took off the insulation the degrees started coming down.

Can't do much about MAF heat soak being that there is literally a heat gun (radiator fan) smacking it with hot air. ah well!
 

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Nice. My boss has a black 2018 392 Scat Pack Charger and the thing looks and sounds mean.

For me, today it's raining so it's not going anywhere.
About 1-2 weeks ago I put back on the 18" AMR's with the wife's 6-yrs-old Goodyear 285s on the front and bald 305/40/18 555R's on the rear. It's my "have fun" set-up, on the car so I can save my other 555R's for next year.

Yesterday, I took it to work.
Morning temps in the 50's, evening ride in the 60's, all day with very little humidity.
Those bald 555R's had no chance :lol: :lol:


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