2005 GT driveshaft

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Looking to do this upgrade to my '06 Saleen once all this virus cr@p is all over, hopefully the exchange rate will be more in my favour by then so it costs me less :whistle1:

Are they all much the same or is there any to avoid?
 

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I went with the DSS because it has a CV joint at the rear which is supposed to eliminate any pinion angle problems. And it will fit an auto trans.
 

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Looking to do this upgrade to my '06 Saleen once all this virus cr@p is all over, hopefully the exchange rate will be more in my favour by then so it costs me less :whistle1:

Are they all much the same or is there any to avoid?

I went with the DSS because it has a CV joint at the rear which is supposed to eliminate any pinion angle problems. And it will fit an auto trans.

As Laga said, one with a CV joint is supposed to be favorable because otherwise you have to be very particular about pinion angle if you have two U-joints, especially on a lowered car. I never really understood why it was such an issue on these cars, but the DSS shaft is about the same price as everyone else's so I figured I might as well buy that one and save the potential headache.
 

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Yeah I installed my Ford Racing 1-piece aluminum driveshaft myself on jack stands. The installation isn't hard at all but it does depend on the type exhaust equipment\DS safety loop equipment you have installed as to how much extra work you'll go thru when installing it AND if you have any physical ailments that will make it harder on you to do this while laying on your back vs standing up...…..which I do have so I can relate to what you're implying.

Example: In my scenario I have a Blowfish Racing Remote Shifter Bracket installed which also serves as a front SPI-certified DS safety loop & a Pypes Super Bomb catback exhaust system which has the 2 mid mounted M80 mufflers at the rear end pinion area. This wasn't an issue in removing the OEM 2-piece DS due to the flexible center section but I had to remove 1 side's M80 muffler section to gain enough area to raise the 1-piece DS high enough to get in the last 1' thru the Blowfish bracket due to having to get around the pinion flange which I couldn't do w\ both M80 mufflers installed. If I still had the OEM catback exhaust installed I wouldn't have needed to remove anything...….. I also took the time since I had the M80 section removed (which included the over axle section which also gained access to my BMR adjustable UCA) to check\reset pinion angle at the same time since the FR 1-piece DS uses Spicer 1350 series U-joints at both ends to ensure this was set correctly at the same time..... And yes I was hurting some afterwards from all the contorting I had to go thru to get all done & installed properly (have arthritis & carpal tunnel for several years so no fun afterwards).

The DSS 1-piece version w\ the rear end pinion CV joint makes this part a much better, easier installation overall IMHO.

If you have access to a lift it's gonna be a better experience overall...……..but I think you already know that.

My 2 cents provided.....……….


How do you like the blowfish bracket? are you on a stock shifter or MGW? I have an MGW and ordered the Blowfish since NO loop would fit with my 1-pc setup. Just getting it for the loop but wonder how the shifting will be with the MGW
 

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How do you like the blowfish bracket? are you on a stock shifter or MGW? I have an MGW and ordered the Blowfish since NO loop would fit with my 1-pc setup. Just getting it for the loop but wonder how the shifting will be with the MGW
I like this bracket very much as I bought it to convert my shifter into a full tranny mount shifter to remove the gear linkage\selector shaft binding from engine\trans flexing while being remote mounted....the rest was extra. I've used this bracket w\ the OEM shifter (which changes the dynamics for the better due to this shifter's design is not as flex resistant as say a Barton or MGW) & currently w\ a Barton ST shifter which is working out excellent for me.

Now truth be told, if you don't bang gears much then this bracket won't change anything shifting wise from the remote mounting as if you're not stressing the engine\trans mounts hard enough to cause any torsional twist across the shifter frame while remote mounted (the main reason for it's purpose is to remove that) to cause trans gear selector shaft bind\drag while shifting then this bracket isn't gonna gain you anything except some vibration transfer into the shifter handle from being fully trans mounted (the remote mount is good at transferring most\all of this vibration into the unibody so it's not so noticeable thru the handle) outside of also being a SPI-certified front DS safety loop....so since the DS safety loop aspect of it is what you're mainly after & don't mind the engine\trans vibration thru the shifter handle then it's for you. The other aspect of this bracket that doesn't get mentioned much is that you can adjust the shifter's height lower than the OEM position relative to your seating position if desired.

This is what I will say though.....if anyone is wanting to retain the stock OEM shifter then this Blowfish Remote Shifter bracket is a MUST as this bracket does transform the stock OEM shifter into a whole new experience...….good enough to make 1 think twice about replacing it as outside of the Barton\MGW or other brands shorter throws the only other feature that they have over the OEM shifter is a much stiffer frame\remote mount to resist twist\flex. The Blowfish Remote Shifter bracket removes the twist\flex advantage that a Barton\MGW\Hurst ST shifter has over the OEM shifter thus closes up the field considerably between them.

Also regardless of which shifter you use for this TR3650 trans I HIGHLY recommend you should install the AMP TR3650 Shift Linkage Bronze Bushing kit to remove the excess slop in the shifter linkage assembly caused from all the plastic bushings used in the linkage assembly. IMHO if you're going this far to buy any ST shifter or this shifter bracket you need to finish it up w\ this bushing kit......this gets this shifter as close to a full tranny insert shifter in feel\operation as you will get w\o actually swapping to 1.

In closing, IMHO if the OEM shifter is paired w\ this Blowfish bracket & the AMP bushing kit I'd dare say that a fair number of folks will bypass the other ST shifters once you use it in this configuration......truth be told I'd be 1 of them from what I've experienced now (I had bought & installed the Barton ST shifter before I got the AMP bushings installed but it took me some time to take the OEM shifter out to install my Barton due to the way it felt while on the Blowfish bracket....it was that good to me).
 

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Mine is standard ride height for a Saleen but if I do decide to lower it slightly then I guess a DSS unit with universal joint will be easiest,have not done any research yet as getting one is a few months away, are they different for auto/man transmission? (mine is man)
The other problem I might have is shipping,I know there are a few retailers who wont ship to across the pond to the UK
 

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There are more DSs that fit manual trans than auto. The DSS fits both. I’m guessing there is a difference in length. Reading the install instructions, you have to tap the CV joint with a rubber mallet to compress it or it will be too long. The bolts that go into the pinion then pull it back out when you tighten them down.
 
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I installed a Dynatech driveline with the T56 mag and have had no problems with the driveline at all.
 

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Will the AMP bronze bushings work on a STEEDA Tri-ax shifter?
 

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If you're interested in a DSS, there's a place on ebay selling them for $663 with free shipping, I bought mine from there and I think they still have a couple left. Just search for the item number.
They must all be gone. Can't find them. Dang. That's what I get for not paying attention.
 

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They must all be gone. Can't find them. Dang. That's what I get for not paying attention.
They were gone when he posted that. I checked right away.

Sorry guys, I had them on my watch list and didn't realize that they were no longer available (it's still on my watch list which is why I didn't notice). Yes it was a hell of a deal, I was surprised I actually got one but TBH when I bought mine I think they only had 3 and I got mine a few months ago.
 

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Will the AMP bronze bushings work on a STEEDA Tri-ax shifter?
If the Steeda bushings that they used in their Tri-AXX ST shifter are the same dimensions as used in the OEM Ford shifter then yes.

The AMP bronze bushing kit was designed to replace all the plastic bushings of the OEM shifter & TR3650 trans shift linkage assembly.
 

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107A6F6F-DD6D-4C63-A742-518443481525.jpeg That looks like the one. Give them an email to make sure Saleen didn’t do anything special. Then check LMR, CJ Pony and even eBay for cheaper prices. My old DS was definitely worn. The replacement has made a big difference in ride quality. I did have to loosen LCAs to install. After install you need to check space at rear CV joint. 3.25” to 3.75” is acceptable range.
 

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Thanks, I will contact them to check.
There is a member on a UK Mustang forum with a new in box DSS driveshaft (need to double check it's the correct one) for sale for $805 delivered, if I buy one online from the regular US places that will deliver to the UK it will cost me approx $1100
 

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That’s a big difference! Just check to make sure the U.K. one still has the 12 month DSS warranty. You never know!!
 

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Another alternative is this https://shaftmasters.com/3mualdr1.html

I have a 2005 GT with a Saleen Series VI 450 rwh. Rear dropped
1in on Roush springs and the Shaft Master 3.5in aluminum drive
shaft.installed 11 years ago.No issues no problems. Fixed the slop
with old stock drive shaft. Check the spec's and the price. Save
some money.
 

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