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And the other huckster, Ron Sutton, had people snowed too. And put on a program that was well attended, but inaccurate. He got in with some of the Pro Touring promoters and had a lot of publicity. But it was a sham.
Some years ago I posted something like 10 posts in a row over on another forum questioning and commenting on quite a bit of what RS had posted. Never heard a peep, not a bit of push-back, even. And it wasn't all criticism.


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That's the whole thing Norm, you are predisposed to think that about it. You admittedly didn't watch much of it previously. I can't force anybody to watch it nor am I trying to. I put it out there for people to view, that's it.

And no it's not all old 60's stuff, he's actually in process of designing a new S197 suspension, and he has quite a bit of stuff for the S550 as well. And this whole series is not about him promoting his stuff. He is trying to help people in making the right decisions for the right application, whether Street Car, Street /Track, full Track day car, or full race car. He is also giving free 15 minute consults to those who attended and you can discuss whatever you want with him. I actually did one this am with him and we spoke for almost 30 minutes about my 2018 cooling issues.
 
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I haven't been able to track down the quotation from an esteemed thinker (sort of like the [maybe] esteemed designer, manufacturer, salesman Kenny B.), which suggests any response/post beyond the third is likely to be wasted effort. Malcolm Gladwell, perhaps? A guy with a following, and with many critics.

I have to believe jj's "bad taste" is hyper-adrenaline induced. No one else appears to be particularly influenced by this thread, which he seems to nurture for no good reason (after the third post).
 

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That and placebo effect, doesn't have a clue, clueless, etc etc etc.... Once again I'm not pushing anyone to view it, only posted it as a source. The rest I don't care....
 

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That's the whole thing Norm, you are predisposed to think that about it.
I can't imagine not doing my own thinking when it comes to car mods. Or most things, for that matter. Otherwise I'd be as ripe for the picking as the prospective vacation home buyer who hears about all that nice waterfront property in Florida. This is my general outlook, not something specific to any particular aftermarket entity.


You admittedly didn't watch much of it previously. I can't force anybody to watch it nor am I trying to. I put it out there for people to view, that's it.
I watched enough of it to realize that he was hard enough to follow when you actually have some understanding of the stuff. Those who don't understand it very well (or at all) are going to be totally snowed.

I can't separate inability to adequately explain from discomfort in front of the camera at this point, and that's part of why I'm hoping he does get more camera-comfortable.


And no it's not all old 60's stuff, he's actually in process of designing a new S197 suspension, and he has quite a bit of stuff for the S550 as well.
All that small-section add-on bracing is at best Fox-era technology. Sometimes, shortish lengths of small-section tubing do provide measurable benefit (I'm thinking about lower/K-member tie bars here), other times there isn't enough technical benefit to justify the weight or the expense.

For his newer stuff, he's absolutely going to have to explain things like how lowering the rear geo-roll center and eliminating the rear sta-bar - doing both together - is a good idea. Like what else is he doing, perhaps with springs or other aspects of the car's understeer budget (understeer-oversteer balance)? We'll have to see how that goes, and hope that it's not the same sort of hand-waving that gave Fox-body cars aftermarket PHBs (in fairness, KB was not alone in binding up the Fox rear suspension this way, but he can't escape being linked to the use of questionable band-aids).


And this whole series is not about him promoting his stuff. He is trying to help people in making the right decisions for the right application, whether Street Car, Street /Track, full Track day car, or full race car.
If more yt links show up, I'll see for myself.

I hope you got some useful cooling hints. I blame Ford's management for letting their business management theory training outweigh product and engineering considerations for that.


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I can't imagine not doing my own thinking when it comes to car mods
Many people don't have the knowledge or engineering background that you do either. Those are who Kenny is reaching out to. He's just trying to show people how to not make the same mistakes he did over the last 40 years, and he states that quite often. If you want to fault a guy for that, then I can't really say much more.
Yes I'm guessing he is hoping to sell some part too, but he has shown thru the videos that is not his main objective. When I had my 30 minute call with him yesterday he gave me recommendations but in no way tried to force his products on me. He answered every question asked, and we even discussed the issues I had with the install of the radiator and heat exchanger I bought from them that did not fit my car properly. I won't discuss any of the details but we have come to a mutual agreement on the issue which I am very pleased with.

He also informed me of the Magnuson Moss act passed by congress in 1975, which allows you to make modifications to your car without voiding the warranty, something that dealer's and manufacturers try to say you can't do.

I definitely agree with you on Ford's management issue.
 

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Many people don't have the knowledge or engineering background that you do either. Those are who Kenny is reaching out to. He's just trying to show people how to not make the same mistakes he did over the last 40 years, and he states that quite often. If you want to fault a guy for that, then I can't really say much more.
I don't expect KB to discuss things on the same technical level as the "Engineering Explained" guy does (and that guy glosses over stuff in the interest of not running overly long), but I do feel that a bit more polish would help. What I have watched was harder to follow than it should have been, not that I'd care to try putting together any instructional videos myself.


I still think that those watching need to bring a questioning attitude to the table, rather than just some "student in a lecture hall" mindset. Maybe that's more of a "life lesson" . . .


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[...] not that I'd care to try putting together any instructional videos myself.


I still think that those watching need to bring a questioning attitude to the table, rather than just some "student in a lecture hall" mindset. Maybe that's more of a "life lesson" . . .


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I'm certain Norm's Instructional videos would be well worth the investment. So many possibilities, so little time (and appropriate subsidies).

It's a modern given that too many do enter voluntary life-experience arenas with the cafeteria attitude, but there it is. You have to wonder what in the society precipitated that kind of orientation. It might be too late to correct the aberration.
 

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