Revising a Tune?

Tony Conti

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I've heard people in the past talk about "cleaning up" a tune because they had the same tune on it for a long time. Is that really necessary if everything feels fine? I've had the same custom tune on for over two years now and haven't had any problems. Just curious about this.
 

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If components/parameters (spark, plugs, fuel, engine wear) haven't changed the car shouldn't run any different. There's no need to "update" a tune unless you're trying to get something out of it (more power, richer/leaner, fix a stumble, different injectors, supercharger, etc.). If you're running fine and happy with it leave it alone. I've had the same tune on mine for 3 years, runs great. No plans to do anything until I build the engine. Then, I'll need an update.
 

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I've heard people in the past talk about "cleaning up" a tune because they had the same tune on it for a long time. Is that really necessary if everything feels fine? I've had the same custom tune on for over two years now and haven't had any problems. Just curious about this.
About the only thing that a "tune refreshing" would be is taking a good operating base tune file to "match up" w\ the learned tune file numbers over time so that the "new good base tune file" incorporates all the good learned tune file numbers up front so the PCM doesn't have to "relearn" those numbers again......

This is the general gist of a tune revision.....whether you do it in two weeks or two years is irrelevant.

No this is not necessary to do if all is operating\driving fine.....but IMHO it is something to consider having done especially if your tuning was done specifically on a dyno (main target is the low speed, closed\part throttle tune mapping area that can get somewhat ignored due to tuning session time constraints).
This is where remote tuning is generally better overall....this is what the datalogs are capturing....

My 2 cents..........

PS---1 thing I will say, here is where using a battery tender instead of disconnecting\reconnecting battery when extended parked time\storage time is concerned to maintain the PCM "learned" tune numbers is IMHO a better move over time....but to each their own.
 
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About the only thing that a "tune refreshing" would be is taking a good operating base tune file to "match up" w\ the learned tune file numbers

That’s pretty interesting, I’ve never heard that before. I wouldn’t mind doing that just for kicks, but I wouldn’t pay for another tune to accomplish this. If I were smart and skilled enough to do my own tunes, I’d give it a go.
 

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With an engine swapped car, you do a bit more revisions to dial it in. On a factory tune with a few bolt ons probably not necessary.
I like to get my adaptive trim, LTFT to +/- 5%.
 

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If components/parameters (spark, plugs, fuel, engine wear) haven't changed the car shouldn't run any different. There's no need to "update" a tune unless you're trying to get something out of it (more power, richer/leaner, fix a stumble, different injectors, supercharger, etc.). If you're running fine and happy with it leave it alone. I've had the same tune on mine for 3 years, runs great. No plans to do anything until I build the engine. Then, I'll need an update.
About the only thing that a "tune refreshing" would be is taking a good operating base tune file to "match up" w\ the learned tune file numbers over time so that the "new good base tune file" incorporates all the good learned tune file numbers up front so the PCM doesn't have to "relearn" those numbers again......

This is the general gist of a tune revision.....whether you do it in two weeks or two years is irrelevant.

No this is not necessary to do if all is operating\driving fine.....but IMHO it is something to consider having done especially if your tuning was done specifically on a dyno (main target is the low speed, closed\part throttle tune mapping area that can get somewhat ignored due to tuning session time constraints).
This is where remote tuning is generally better overall....this is what the datalogs are capturing....

My 2 cents..........

PS---1 thing I will say, here is where using a battery tender instead of disconnecting\reconnecting battery when extended parked time\storage time is concerned to maintain the PCM "learned" tune numbers is IMHO a better move over time....but to each their own.

Over the winter I installed new oem plugs (gapped to ford oem spec), FRPP 24lb (stock) injectors, oem fuel filter and went from a 2.5" catback to a 3" and I just bought the steeda under drive pulley set. I figured it would be a good idea to get a new tune after the under drive set. I've just put it off because the car has been acting/driving the same as it always has. When I changed the plugs I didn't bother to pull out the feeler gauge to see where they were at and I just tossed them because I had new ones and all the electrodes looked pretty warn and were taking the shape of a pyramid.
 

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