I'm going to reply to this once because I want the general public to know actual facts and not what some ignorant poster is saying. I only want to clarify. I don't give a whit what the OP is on about. He is a prime example of the 2% of the customers base that as a business you refuse to deal with because they are a complete waste of time.
I posted earlier that DOB was offering a mod to the Edelbrock E-Force supercharger intercooler. I e-mailed them and asked for details on the removal of the intercooler and was told
"It's real easy. Just remove the bolts and pull."
We've done three of these. Yes they took some effort. Nothing a pry bar and one person couldn't handle. Is it possible that EB put way too much RTV in some units and they are harder. Sure.
After talking to Edelbrock Tech Support earlier today, I was told that it is glued in place on the inside with RTV. When they have to remove one in their shop, it takes 3-4 guys pulling on a strap that is wrapped around the front hose fittings. Some part of the intercooler block is usually damaged when it is removed. Edelbrock told me the only time the intercooler block should ever be moved is when there is a leak or some other kind of failure. The intercooler block is where the Edelbrock name is. It doesn't move.
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Taking tech advice from minimum wage goofballs that are good for nothing other than answering phones (this is true of most companies) is not something you want to hang your hat on as the last word. Additionally companies FREQUENTLY over state things in an attempt to keep the lowest common denominator from doing something stupid. Lastly, Edelbrock doesn't have much credibility when it comes to blower design and by extension I would say advice. The E-Force is a design disaster in so many ways it's depressing to think about. I don't know about you (the general public) but I don't put much stock in the advice from people that have a track record of gargantuan failures. I tend to take my advice from people who are at the top of their respective industries. Edelbrock is decidedly not that.
I don’t think it will improve overall performance that much from the setup I have now.
What he thinks is irrelevant because he doesn't have any context to base a conclusion on. A E-Force running at 10psi (low amount of heat) CAN NOT keep IAT's under control even a little with the standard intercooler. End of story. There is a massive amount of data to support this.
After I received the email offer from DOB, i asked for details on how to remove the IC. DOB said it was easy. It ain’t.
Easy is a relative term. In the realm of hot rodding it is super easy. For someone who has very little mechanical ability or desire to improve upon their skills it could be considered hard. If all a person can do is change their oil and put a wheel on a car, yeh, it would be "hard". To even your beginner hot rodder it's easy.
That’s exactly what the mod is, larger 1” lines.
This is not exactly what it is. The IC mod allows the use of up to a 1.25" line. I don't know about everyone else reading this but tend to discount the credibility of people that make bold black and white stamens of fact.....that are wrong. What else are they wrong about?
I went with a larger VMP HE with dual fans because I wanted to keep the fog lights with a Davies Craig 150 pump. Works great.
No, it doesn't work great. In fact, it works like crap. A combination like this can't handle more than 4-5sec of WOT before it starts to pull ignition timing/power.
For everyone reading this if people make claims about IC system performance and IAT's and they are not accompanied by data they're information is completely useless. 99% of the time they don't even know what the data should look like to be considered good.
IMHO, it’s definitely not worth the $600 for the larger lines.
The OP's opinion is one based on profound ignorance.
In closing:
We lead the industry in intercooler system testing and product that works. We have more data to pull from than the rest of the industry combined. We are the only source that can solve most IC system problems. We take great pride in that. we also take great pride in not selling someone something they don't need. Ask around. We spend a lot of time talking people out of stuff. We are of course here to make money. But we want to make that by offering the best solutions matched to the customers specific needs. We are more driven by being the best than making money. Because if we are the best........the money will come.
I will not be checking this thread or replying to it. I don't do internet drama. And I'm slammed trying to get intercooler systems boxed up and shipped. If anyone has any questions feel free to email us at
[email protected]. Thanks
