And then there's this. https://www.fordmuscle.com/news/the-legend-lives-on-saleen-announces-big-oly-ford-bronco/
So if the 2.3L looks super cramped in the Bronco's engine bay? I can't even imagine getting the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 in there, let alone getting the Coyote DOHC 5.0 to fit. Anyhow, you bring up a valid point that with some tuning, the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 with 500+Ft.Lb torque will be a monster with the Sasquatch package, no pun intended
Is 540hp and 550 ft-lbs from a 2.7EB enough? https://www.tfltruck.com/2019/03/he...a-ford-f-150-2-7l-ecoboost-v6-stage-3-tuning/
If all it takes is upgrading to CR performance stage 3 turbos, intake/exhaust and E-30 octane tune? 540hp/550 ft.lbs from a 2.7EB is more than enough with 60 more hp over a stock Coyote DOHC 5.0L
Kinda OT, but a guy on another forum presented an argument that dollar for dollar, power per dollar spent, the best budget Ford powered engine swap right now is the 3.5EB. And at the end of the discussion I knew he was right. With 100% stock parts it can put almost 460 ft-lbs and 400 hp to the wheels through a 4x4 10 speed automatic drivetrain. They put about 310/360 to the wheels all stock. With a 93 octane performance tune it goes to 457 ft-lbs and 398hp. Totally stock parts. That's roughly 470hp and 540 ft-lbs. You can buy the engine for about $4500 and the controller for $1800. You can't build that kind of power from a V8 for less. You can make an argument that the V6's don't sound as good as the 5.0 V8 and you win that argument, but if your goal is performance before sound, the V6 Ecoboost engines are hard to beat. A tuned 2.7EB in the F150 can make about 400 ft-lbs to the wheels from 2500-4000 maybe 4500 on 87 octane fuel. It'll make almost 350 hp to the wheels. Step up to 93 octane and you get 400 hp and from 3000-5000 you have a peak of almost 500 ft-lbs and it never drops below 400 to the wheels. And that's just a tune. Once these 2.7EB Bronco's are in the wild and tuned, I think we'll see that there is no need for a V8. I also think a popular modification for these in extreme crawling will be methanol injection so they don't heat soak. Bigger intercoolers and intercoolers with fans pulling air through them will be a thing too.
When the lease on our "19" Escape is up in 2022, we'll be looking into a base Bronco with the 2.7EB and possibly add the Sasquatch package
Yeah they are still pushrod engines. I have seen some photos of the 2.7 next the the 5.0 coyote and while the 2.7 isnt exactly small, it is still narrower than the coyote. https://images.app.goo.gl/bX5jN5DG5FSVbGVo7 In terms of physical size the 5.0 coyote is large
By the time you add the turbos the 2.7 EB isn't much narrower https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://pictures.dealer.com/d/donleyfordfd/0467/453ecb6e8518d48e238ab7c1b52ac670x.jpg?impolicy=downsize&w=568&imgrefurl=https://www.donleyfordashland.net/research/ford-f150-engine-guide.htm&tbnid=ZQzrvQjkX5jYzM&vet=1&docid=xPhO-vtQWtcqhM&w=568&h=244&q=2.7+vs+5.0+size&source=sh/x/im#h=244&imgdii=Z7akwGJOqg0KNM&vet=1&w=568
Are all 6 of those engine photographed at the same scale? Who knows for sure. But if a 5.0 will fit, it will get put in a Bronco by someone.
According to this YouTube video.. Aftermarket tuner PaxPower, claims the Coyote 5.0 can be retrofitted into the 2021 Bronco and supposedly are in the works of doing the Coyote 5.0 conversions. However, PaxPower says their conversion package will set you back an additional 30k
a gen 3 coyote crate engine lists for 9500 on Ford Performance website. So the other 20K is for parts to make it fit, work and labor....just ouch
That math doesn't quite add up to me. I doubt PaxPower is paying MSRP for the coyote, and I'd also assume they are reselling the engine the bronco would have originally come with. Seems to me that this could be done (even by a shop) for much much less. However, I'm sure some would still pay the premium.
The video says a truck-spec trans needs to be fitted, cuz of special programming/misc crap. So over $15k just in engine/tranny. Plus custom fabbing, parts, labor, and profit. Yeah, I can see $30k as being a reasonable charge. I don't see why the supercharged option should add $15k though
This is where stuff starts to be over my grade on the technical side of things, but I believe the auto transmission in the Bronco is the 10R80 - which is the same as the Ranger, F-150 etc
It is the 10R80, but the 2.7 uses a different case than the 5.0 uses. Bell housing pattern is different.
