Coyote oil dipstick interference

[13Yote]

Hello,

I recently completed the oil pump gear install on my gen 1 coyote and in the process busted the oil dipstick tube. I ordered another one and when I got it, it was about and inch or so shorter than the original, and it wasnt bent like the old (likely original) one. I cross checked the part number on the package and it comes to a 11-14 coyote dipstick so I assumed it to be right.

So installed the tube into the valve cover and then the valve cover into the engine. Everything seemingly went together well, but when I push my dipstick in it hits something about 2 inches from seating all the way. Granted I can push past this rather easily and the dipstick will then fully seat normally. It reads about halfway on the dipstick which is normal if not a little lower than normal.

Has anyone experienced this? I assume the shorter and not bent new tube isnt guiding the dipstick around something (the windage tray?) that the old one did? Did I install it wrong? The shop manual is VERY unhelpful in this matter.

Thanks in advance!

 

[86GT351]

Is it an OE dipstick (Ford) or aftermarket?

 

[Wide_five0]

Lol I have the same issue. Took my old one out and went to replace with new OEM ford part and it’s definitely shorter? I called ford they said that’s the part number but just wanna make sure not gonna have any issues.

 

[Wide_five0]

 

[13Yote]

Is it an OE dipstick (Ford) or aftermarket?

Its the oem dipstick, new (but oem) dipstick tube

 

[13Yote]

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Exactly, spent 5 min double checking the part # online and thats supposed to be the one.

The top of mine SAYS a different number than whats on the package but when I google that one it still goes to the original part and part #

 

[86GT351]

iS THE TUBE oem ALSO? wHAT IS THE SPECIFIC YEAR OF YOUR CAR?

 

[Wide_five0]

I have a 2014 5.0. Yes everything OEM. The one I took out has a slightly different part number then the new oem one. Called ford said both are right. I just don’t like the different lengths and don’t like that about a inch or 2 away from seating it starts hitting something.

 

[13Yote]

iS THE TUBE oem ALSO? wHAT IS THE SPECIFIC YEAR OF YOUR CAR?

Tube and dipstick are both oem. The tube is the new part( the one thats like an inch shorter than the original, despite being the recommended part) and the dipstick is original. My cars a 13

 

[13Yote]

I have a 2014 5.0. Yes everything OEM. The one I took out has a slightly different part number then the new oem one. Called ford said both are right. I just don’t like the different lengths and don’t like that about a inch or 2 away from seating it starts hitting something.

My buddy is a certified Ford mechanic and has regularly worked on coyotes. He was the first guy I called when I had this issue and he was puzzled as well. Thats where I got the windage tray idea. Its possible its (the dipstick itself) hitting that and deflecting DOWN into the pan. The other option is that its hitting the windage tray and deflecting UP and just sitting on top of it. But my buddy said if it were deflecting up and sitting on top of the windage tray it wouldnt read at all. The new tube being shorter doesnt guide the dipstick far enough to get past this.
I might get my hands on a borescope and see what I can do. Id hate to open my valvecover again.
Personally I dont care as long as the dipsticks reading right and its not being poked into any place it shouldnt be. I just think its stupid that an already crappy and weak design is being outdone by Fords inability to make a completely replaceable part. This is a "nice" car and for the dipstick to be that choppy is ridiculous.

 

[Wide_five0]

I showed my buddy, I just reread your previous comment and saw that you’re having trouble with the actual dip stick. The tube for me was hard to go in but my buddy came by pushed it in and now when I put the actual dipstick in it goes in smooth no problem. So not too sure what you have going on. I have a 2014 fully built bottom end and stock heads.

 

[WJBertrand]

I wonder if the new tube could be curved using a tube bender (the kind that look like long coil spring) to match the one you removed. Do you know which way the curve is supposed to go?

 

[13Yote]

I wonder if the new tube could be curved using a tube bender (the kind that look like long coil spring) to match the one you removed. Do you know which way the curve is supposed to go?

I would assume down to go under the windage tray.

 

[13Yote]

I showed my buddy, I just reread your previous comment and saw that you’re having trouble with the actual dip stick. The tube for me was hard to go in but my buddy came by pushed it in and now when I put the actual dipstick in it goes in smooth no problem. So not too sure what you have going on. I have a 2014 fully built bottom end and stock heads.

Was there any method for pushing it in/installing it? Maybe I did it wrong.

 

[Wide_five0]

My tube went in fairly smooth until it was about an inch away from seating. Then I could feel it catching something a little. But if I applied a little pressure it would go. Buddy said it was getting caught on the texture of block. So he came over pushed it in then I put dip stick in and went right in so seems no issue.

 

[13Yote]

For closure, I did end up pulling my valve covers off again for separate reasons and I seized the opportunity to recheck whats going on with the dipstick. The tube was bent very slightly, kinda like the original one, and the dipstick slid through it without issue when I had it on my bench. I angled the bend pointing backwards towards the firewall when I reinstalled the valve cover since, from what I could see, there was a rib or something down in the cavity where the dipstick would go, so I angled it away (I think). Unfortunately that didnt solve my problem and its still sticking about 2 or 3 inches from fully seating in the valve cover. I might play around with rotating the tube in the valve cover, since you can do that from the top and without removing the cover, to see if I can redirect the end of the dipstick from whatever its hitting. At this point it just has to be hitting either that rib I mentioned or something else I cant see. It slides thru the tube fine so that could really be the only thing.