Current Boost Controller Options/Opinions

Discussion in '2015+ S550 Mustang 5.0L Tech' started by Flapjack, Oct 28, 2022.

  1. Flapjack

    Flapjack Lunatic engine swapper

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    Regarding boost controllers... it seems a lot has changed since I bought an eBoost2 years ago bump my 5.4L 3v from 14psi from the WG springs alone to the 21psi it took to make 1000+ rwhp (which honestly was just a goal for me, not something I planned to drive around on or race with).

    Fast-forward to today and my 2019 GT with Hellion twins is finally (mostly) streetable with DRs on 17" Welds and 305mm MTs, in addition to the assorted BMR rear suspension mods I did (toe rods, vertical links, cradle bushing lockout, and bearing kit) to help with wheel hop. Still, that only solved the issues at 6psi or so. I had originally planned on making 9-11ish PSI. Hellion has told me repeatedly that the 5 and 7lb springs that came with my twin sleeper kit actually make 7 and 9psi, respectfully. Even after relocating the control lines from each wastegate to after the intercooler (vs directly from the cold side fitting), I'm still only making 6ish PSI. I've decided that instead of trying to get the springs to make the boost I want (shooting for 11psi), I'm going to get a EBC to hopefully ramp the boost up in a controlled manner and retain some of the driveability I have now. That's where I'm stuck, though. There are literally 3x the options compared to 10 years ago. I can't seem to decide.

    As I mentioned, I don't want to change springs and suddenly have traction issues all over again. From past research, the AMS-1000 was the cream of the crop, but that really seems overkill. There are more than a few boost controllers that might work well for me, so I figured I'd ping y'all.

    Ideally, it sounds like the gear based boost (and RPM per gear) seems like the mecca of control/driveability. I'm not sure any of the other options would be enough to make me happy, but I'm willing to hear opinions. I am worried about trying to save a few bucks up front, only to regret not having gone with that "mecca" later.

    Keeping that in mind, I looked at a shit-ton of EBCs today. It seems like only a few do gear and RPM based stages. From what I've read, it looks like the Cortex EBC can (but it's quite out-of-stock), as well as the AMS-1000. The Boost Leash and GFB G-Force III seem like good backup plans, but can't do the gear/RPM option (though may have close alternative strategies that may be close enough).

    That being said, the Leash is ugly AF, but maybe I could paint it blackand it wouldn't look so shitty. The GFB is better looking (which shouldn't be important, but still is), and is a LOT cheaper. Both have mount options (by Fathouse) that make for a clean installed. The AMS-1000 simply seems like overkill for a street car, but would definitely work. My only concern there is price, as well as (what seems like) zero options for in-cab adjustments.

    I like the way the GFB G-Force III looks, but am not sure which strategy is pick in lieu of not having a gear/RPM based one. I guess the same goes for the Boost Leash, so I'd be interested in a good pros/cons list for those two.

    As for the Cortex, it seems like a really good unit, and probably the one I would get today... if it was in stock. From what I've read, the boost-by-gear option is truly BBG and automatic, but requires tapping into harness wires that make it more of a PITA install. I also can't find anything that says this even works on a Mustang (vs the variety of ricer applications that litter the internet).

    The GFB seems like a nice little unit, but doesn't seem to have any true ramp outside of "rise rate", which is nowhere near a true ramp.

    I don't know much about the AMS-1000 (or the newer 2000), outside if they seem to be capable of most anything, but are harder to install and configure (and are also more expensive).

    Other than that, I'm lost. I don't know which one to get, and I'm only hoping someone here has been through all this tedious decision-making stuff and can help me answer the questions above, as well as all the issues/choices I haven't considered or don't know about, too.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Flapjack

    Flapjack Lunatic engine swapper

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    Surprised no one chimed in here. The Cortex is back in stock, so I'll probably order it.

    Anyone have experience with it?
     
  3. MrBhp

    MrBhp Senior Member

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    My eboost has gear based boost, time based boost, rpm based boost. Yours doesn't do that?
    Edit. I decided to go back and read your post thoroughly. You don't have the eb2 on this car. Sorry, my bad.
     
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  4. Flapjack

    Flapjack Lunatic engine swapper

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    Which eBoost is that? I'm pretty sure the one I have on my 2005 twin turbo 5.4l 3v is the eBoost2, but then again, I bought that roughly 10 years ago. Not sure if it has evolved. Even if those features were there (just looked at the current eBoost2), I may not have noticed them. I literally only use it to bump from 14psi to 21psi (which is what I needed to make 1000rwhp on it). I only drove it once set to 21psi, and it was pretty much useless. I already had traction issues at 14psi, lol.
     
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  5. MrBhp

    MrBhp Senior Member

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    I have the EB2. Here's a little something for you:


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  6. Flapjack

    Flapjack Lunatic engine swapper

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    Do you have to set all that from the front face, or is there software you can connect/config via a PC?
     
  7. MrBhp

    MrBhp Senior Member

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    Front face and the first several times it sucks. Once you get the menus figured out it's easy. And I'm an old man.
     
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