BruceH
BBB Big Bore Boss 322
It almost sounds like multiple issues. I don't want to be Debbie downer here but I have ask why the Optima? That name is a recurring theme when it comes to battery problem threads.
Help with failsafe and trouble codes
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It almost sounds like multiple issues. I don't want to be Debbie downer here but I have ask why the Optima? That name is a recurring theme when it comes to battery problem threads.
05stroker
Never enough power guy!
Fucking crankshaft possion senor!!!
After doing some reading on the net today I found a couple of threads on F150s that had these same codes. One Ford tech was telling a guy about how these codes are set when the PCM sences an intemitant fault on the cam sensors and that the sensors are only used on start up to tell the PCM and CKP sensor where the cams are.
One thing that didnt make sence to me though is why no CEL for the CKP sensor? Well the sensor was working but it has oil seaping through it! When I pulled the connector there was oil inside. I thought about how the FRPS will seap fuel when they go bad and for $25 it was worth a try.
Thats when I thought to myself well then if there is only an itermitant short then maybe, just maybe, it could be the CKP sensor. Ran down to the local Napa and bought one and sure enough no more CEL.
I have started the car four times now and no code and it was like clock work before, every second start after clearing the code. I am going to let the car sit a while and start it a few more times later.
As for the Optima battery Bruce, this is the first time I have every had trouble with on is on this car. The first one (Redtop) sat over two yrs while the car was down and the second that I just took out was only six months old so IDK there. From the reading I did on Optomas site thismorning the Redtop really doesnt like to sit and not be used. That is where the switch from the red to the yellow can in. They say the Yellowtop is like a combination of the Red and Blue (marine) and it can take the beating of being ran down lower along with being able to sit without issue.
Weather should be better here tomorrow and I will do some driving to test further.
After doing some reading on the net today I found a couple of threads on F150s that had these same codes. One Ford tech was telling a guy about how these codes are set when the PCM sences an intemitant fault on the cam sensors and that the sensors are only used on start up to tell the PCM and CKP sensor where the cams are.
One thing that didnt make sence to me though is why no CEL for the CKP sensor? Well the sensor was working but it has oil seaping through it! When I pulled the connector there was oil inside. I thought about how the FRPS will seap fuel when they go bad and for $25 it was worth a try.
Thats when I thought to myself well then if there is only an itermitant short then maybe, just maybe, it could be the CKP sensor. Ran down to the local Napa and bought one and sure enough no more CEL.
I have started the car four times now and no code and it was like clock work before, every second start after clearing the code. I am going to let the car sit a while and start it a few more times later.
As for the Optima battery Bruce, this is the first time I have every had trouble with on is on this car. The first one (Redtop) sat over two yrs while the car was down and the second that I just took out was only six months old so IDK there. From the reading I did on Optomas site thismorning the Redtop really doesnt like to sit and not be used. That is where the switch from the red to the yellow can in. They say the Yellowtop is like a combination of the Red and Blue (marine) and it can take the beating of being ran down lower along with being able to sit without issue.
Weather should be better here tomorrow and I will do some driving to test further.
one eyed willy
Pizzle fo shizzle
Damn! Bet your happy now! Congrats!
05stroker
Never enough power guy!
I will be if it starts four more times here in a few without the CELs!
05stroker
Never enough power guy!
Well its all good! 
BruceH
BBB Big Bore Boss 322
Well its all good!
Good news. What a journey that was! This is the kind of info that is very valuable to all of us. Sorry you had to go through it.
05stroker
Never enough power guy!
Good info for sure! I never would have thought of the CKP sensor if that tech had not mentioned how the CMP sensors are used by the PCM on startup. I mean where the hell is the CKP code? I have been fighting this for Months and the only reason I can think of as to why it just got worse was the fact it was leaking oil through the sensor and the leak must have slowly made the sensor get worse. Keep in mind though this was not a major leak that you would see without removing the connector
dysan
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Good find! Congrats on the fix.
05stroker
Never enough power guy!
Thanks! I am REALLY glad this one is behind me. I have been fighting these same two CELs since the car was completed as it just got worse and worse. Pretty much since I went to NMRA in Houston these same two codes have come on every other time the car was started after clearing them. At the track it felt like that once the cell was set the car would run a little slower. Im just glad its done. I know my neighbors have to be tired of me starting the car tonight! 12 starts down now and not a single CEL.
Glad you figured it out!
Damn. Must be a relief.
05stroker
Never enough power guy!
Thanks, and yes it is! Already on Jack and 7 #4 for the victory over the CKP sensor!
Just wish Manning would have had the same victory today...
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crownaviation
http://www.tudyno.com/
Good info and thanks for the posting...
Glad you got it figured out & it was nothing serious. Now back to the track.
05stroker
Never enough power guy!
65 miles, 5 more starts and no codes! Im going to call it fixed.
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