Cam/Crank codes, please help!

[Alfiedagr8]

These engine run half the oil
Pressure on the heads then base. So example you have 30 psi oil pressure at the oil pressure switch port then u can expect about 15 psi at the heads. There is some port to check head pressure. But the office cannot lower your Base pressure. If your getting as low at 10 psi base pressure then u have about 5 in the heads.


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[300angryhorses]

Here is a video of the pressure issue. I had to step away from it for a little while, but I'm back on it now.

 

[300angryhorses]

pics of cams and journals. these show the worst of it.

 

[Alfiedagr8]

Some of the pix looks like the caps my be scorn. Can you feel anything when your run your finger nail across them? Also u said u put a melling oil pump? I never had any experience with that pump nut I read somewhere here were the clearance on those pumps are alittle more than the factory pump
And can cause low base oil pressure. You can measure the clearance to see. If u done know how I'll post a picture on Monday on how to do it.


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[300angryhorses]

Some of the pix looks like the caps my be scorn. Can you feel anything when your run your finger nail across them? Also u said u put a melling oil pump? I never had any experience with that pump nut I read somewhere here were the clearance on those pumps are alittle more than the factory pump
And can cause low base oil pressure. You can measure the clearance to see. If u done know how I'll post a picture on Monday on how to do it.


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Yes, I can feel the grooves when I run a finger nail across them.

I put in the Melling 340 pump, which is listed as a higher pressure pump, seemingly due to the higher pressure relief spring as far as i can tell. People have had VCT issues with the Melling billet pump, M176, which is supposed to be a higher volume pump.

If you get a chance, i would appreciate seeing the pictures. While I have it all apart again, I want to check all that I can. My oil pressure issues started with the stock pump, too, but it didn't look bad when I pulled it apart.

Thanks.

 

[BruceH]

I wonder what the main and rod bearings look like?

 

[Alfiedagr8]

I wonder what the main and rod bearings look like?

Yeah. I work at a dealer so when we see this. The cam journals being scorn we would recommend a long block if it's customer pay or if it's warranty we will request for a long block. But if it were my motor I would tear it down and see how everything looks like. Find the root cause and repair all related damage. I'll post tomorro
How to check the gerotor
Pump clearance. With specs.


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[300angryhorses]

Yeah. I work at a dealer so when we see this. The cam journals being scorn we would recommend a long block if it's customer pay or if it's warranty we will request for a long block. But if it were my motor I would tear it down and see how everything looks like. Find the root cause and repair all related damage. I'll post tomorro
How to check the gerotor
Pump clearance. With specs.


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Thanks. I just finished pulling the oil pan. I'll check the crank endplay and rest of the bottom end over the week.

 

[Alfiedagr8]

Sorry man I been going through the workshop Manuel and can't seem to find the specs. I'll keep digging through


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[300angryhorses]

Sorry man I been going through the workshop Manuel and can't seem to find the specs. I'll keep digging through

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Thanks. I won't even get back to it until tomorrow evening at the earliest.

 

[300angryhorses]

p0021/0022 code

I put a dial indicator on the crankshaft. Ford specs are 0.0030-0.0148 inches.

 

[Alfiedagr8]

So u got .022?


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[300angryhorses]

yep .022. I'll check the thrust washer and bearings next.

 

[AutoXRacer]

This is exactly the same failure I got back in May!!!! Same exact symptoms and same exact result...heads are shot!!! My block looked spotless though!!

I am now awaiting a new long block... sigh

I still can't figure out what happened first... VCT solenoid clogged, restricted oil flow, cams spun dry...but how did the solenoids get clogged to begin with?

My warranty had expired 4K miles ago and Ford said sorry, no warranty, no help. sigh

BTW, Ford redesigned their crappy VCT 13 times from 2005-2010!!!

 

[Alfiedagr8]

This is exactly the same failure I got back in May!!!! Same exact symptoms and same exact result...heads are shot!!! My block looked spotless though!!

I am now awaiting a new long block... sigh

I still can't figure out what happened first... VCT solenoid clogged, restricted oil flow, cams spun dry...but how did the solenoids get clogged to begin with?

My warranty had expired 4K miles ago and Ford said sorry, no warranty, no help. sigh

BTW, Ford redesigned their crappy VCT 13 times from 2005-2010!!!

Did u ask for AWA? (after warranty assistance) they usually say yes. Especially if u have boughten plenty of fords before.

VCT sol get restricted I seen in aftermarket oil filter. They come apart. Always use ford oil filters.


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[AutoXRacer]

Did u ask for AWA? (after warranty assistance) they usually say yes. Especially if u have boughten plenty of fords before.

VCT sol get restricted I seen in aftermarket oil filter. They come apart. Always use ford oil filters.


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Hmm, didn't know about the AWA... Do you think its too late to make a claim now? I do have the dealer paperwork that said the VCT failed.

I've always used Mobil 1 filters... I thought...I read they were good filters.
My new engine will only use Ford Racing filters...as thats what my engine builder uses on their engines.

 

[Alfiedagr8]

Hmm, didn't know about the AWA... Do you think its too late to make a claim now? I do have the dealer paperwork that said the VCT failed.

I've always used Mobil 1 filters... I thought...I read they were good filters.
My new engine will only use Ford Racing filters...as thats what my engine builder uses on their engines.

AWA only works if your getting your car fixed at that dealer. So the dealer is making the repairs. So if your car is still broken and your gonna want another stock motor in there. U have to take to dealer ask for AWA cause the dealer really isn't suppose to tell people about that. And they will summit to ford the cost with parts and labor to get it done. Then ford will come back and say they will pay an "X" amount of the total ticket. It could be any were from 30-60% of the total ticket cost. Usually about half tho.

It all depends on how good of a ford customer are you. Too. They look at bow many cars you buy etc..


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[michael.konor]

I've always used Mobil 1 filters... I thought...I read they were good filters.
My new engine will only use Ford Racing filters...as thats what my engine builder uses on their engines.

Last time I did some checking Ford Filters = Purolator

 

[AutoXRacer]

I still can't believe VCT solenoid failures are caused by oil filter media... sigh

 

[Greg Hazlett]

Last time I did some checking Ford Filters = Purolator

This; the only thing that changed is the anti drain back valve.