Changing front A arm bushings to Whiteline

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I had already changed the rear front A arm bushings to Whiteline and forgot to take any pictures but there are other threads on those so you'll see them in my pictures but no description of the swap. Except to say it is messy but once done does make a really nice noticeable difference to the steering feel.

Another place you'll feel these bushing changes is under braking. The original setup from Ford both bushings allow the A arm to move a significant amount reward as braking forces are applied. The Whiteline bushings both the front one and the back one are much stiffer in the axial movement along the lower A arm pivot.

The rear bushings I changed later because when I bought my rear bushings the fronts weren't included and I didn't know they existed. They don't make as big a difference in feel. They do decrease the sticktion and spring rate slightly. While the poly on the Whiteline bushings is slightly stiffer than the rubber it is also thicker so it probably deflects about the same as the stock bushings. But unlike the stock bushings the Whiteline bushings are lubricated the liner sleeve and outer poly sleeve are not bonded together so the yellow bushing in the arm is free to rotate on the inner gold sleeve. On the stock bushings the inner sleeve is bonded together with the outer sleeve making it act like a rubber spring.

This is with everything removed except the A arm. The front bolt can be removed with the rack turned all the way to the opposite side.

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The bushing we're changing.

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The new setup going in.

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Clamp the arm securely.

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An extra long 1 1/4 inch hole saw. Use water to lubricate the saw and keep from melting the rubber to the saw. You'll need a pretty large high torque drill motor.

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I forgot a picture here. Once the rubber and inner sleeve are removed use a saber saw or Skill saw to cut through the out sleeve of the bushing. Make sure to cut towards the arm so if you score the outer sleeve you don't leave a stress riser where the outer A arm sleeve could crack. Once it is cut through it will come out really easy with a couple of hammer taps and a drift. Clean up the end and touch up with paint. Put the new bushings in as pictured. Lubricate the inside and put the center sleeve in, lube the outside of it too, wipe away excess grease and reassemble.

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What is the material that the bushings are made from?
 

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im wondering how much turn in would be affected with these over the steeda black insert kit?
 

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any on-track feedbacks?

No just drove a couple times since putting them in. Honestly I wouldn't expect much from the front bushings the rear big yellow ones with the gold anodized aluminum housing made a very large difference. Much better feel, turn in and precision to the steering.

What is the material that the bushings are made from?

I can't remember what they call it. It is supposed to be propritary and so something no one else has.

im wondering how much turn in would be affected with these over the steeda black insert kit?

Have no idea how the Steeda ones work only tried these and the stock ones. It is the rear front A arm bushing where the most is to be gained. But they sell them as a pair no so once you pull the A arm out you might as well do both.

No lube between the bushing and the arm only between the bushing and the inner sleeve. I actually put some wet paint in the A arm and pushed the bushing when it was still wet to help the bushing stick to the outer sleeve.
 
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Look at that I'm a control arm model for 908ssp lol

Nice write up! Took some time and glad to hear you like it!
 

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These should work great on 2005-2010 model Mustangs. Any of the 2011-up Mustangs with the electric steering rack (EPAS) need to avoid any aftermarket LCA bushings up front, as that will trip an EPAS failure, almost 100% of the time. This is NOT an issue with the 2005-2010 cars that have traditional hydraulically powered steering racks.

I put in Energy Suspension poly front LCA bushings and this happened...


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Whiteline will tell you that these bushings are not compatible with the 2011-up EPAS cars. They will work, but you have to be ready to buy this puppy for $999...

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Then and only then will the car track straight and not have that funky electronic steering feedback.

If you have a 2011+ GT and want to know more, search this forum for EPAS Failure or EPAS Shudder.
 

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Any of the 2011-up Mustangs with the electric steering rack (EPAS) need to avoid any aftermarket LCA bushings up front, as that will trip an EPAS failure, almost 100% of the time. This is NOT an issue with the 2005-2010 cars that have traditional hydraulically powered steering racks.

Very interesting -
 

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Terry, you you have any pics of how you did your install of these bushings? I am curious as to how you handled the removal of the factory bushings.
 

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Whiteline will tell you that these bushings are not compatible with the 2011-up EPAS cars. They will work, but you have to be ready to buy this puppy for $999...

Well, that's not REALLY true, you need to swap to an older style arm as well since we change the sleeve on the arm itself and ours does not fit on the 2011+ arm either.
 

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Ok I may be asking a dumb question here but what part are you cutting on the a arm? When you drill the bushing out with the hole saw I understand but the saber saw cutting I'm a little confused. I have orderd the kit but the online instruction manual leaves much out.
 

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Ok I may be asking a dumb question here but what part are you cutting on the a arm? When you drill the bushing out with the hole saw I understand but the saber saw cutting I'm a little confused. I have orderd the kit but the online instruction manual leaves much out.


The stock bushing has an outer sleeve and an inner sleeve. Cutting the rubber with the hole saw removes the inner bushing but the outer bushing is still pressed into the arm. You cut that outer bushing to relieve the pressure so you can tap it out.
 

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