akula52
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Yea, I broke it! I look at it this way, at least now, I have Triangle Speed billet oil pump gears!
Yea, I broke it! I look at it this way, at least now, I have Triangle Speed billet oil pump gears!
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Mines more jacked than yours . LOL! Not Livernois though . I win for best ugly piston !Here's a pic of my stroker failure. I am not blaming anyone for the failure, and it could of been caused by any number of things, including mods that I did and didn't know any better, but I was not excited to pop my motor. That's about all I will say about that, it is just a data point for trending only. Enjoy!
P.S. Hell, it could of been bad gas or maybe the rear cylinders are just not getting enough cooling, and it is a block design issue. I am not blaming Livernois, I think they are a great company, with a good product!
LOL!hell we all have shitty piston pics lol
We stand behind our warranty 100% which clearly outlines that tuning issues are NOT covered. If we determine that the cause of this failure is tuning, I would hope people would understand that this is not a Livernois Problem.
Again there has been no final decision with us or Mahle.
Thanks
Dan
Here's a pic of my stroker failure. I am not blaming anyone for the failure, and it could of been cau………………. maybe the rear cylinders are just not getting enough cooling, and it is a block design issue. I am not blaming Livernois, I think they are a great company, with a good product!
Sorry thats just my take...
Not Accusing you of wrong doing, I would never do that, but that could be in the minds of some on this thread if you say it was the Tuners fault.
I had a simular issue in my business where I wired a sun room, and a few months later the wiring caught of fire. I investigated and determined that the owner pluged 20 amp heater into the plug that was rated for 15 amps and caused the wire to overheat and catch on fire. They tried to blame my wiring, I tried to blame the owner for using an over sized heater and the Breaker manufacture as to why their part failed to protect the wire and trip. after months of fighting about it, I decided to save face and paid to rewire the room, fix the drywall and replace the defective breaker to keep a good reputation with the community that I stood behind my product even at my loss. I even gave them a 20 amp outlet for their space heater.
Not saying thats what you should do, just relaying a story.
Maybe you guys should start doing it, if its that cut and dry. You have to remember, that not everyone is an expert and not every tuner out there gives the best advice.
Not trying to start anything...just my .02
Let me just say this.....If it is so obivious to some, that you should only run 15 psi on a livernois stroker on pump gas, why is that not stated? I mean really why? If you only recomend 15 psi that should be clearly stated...
Maybe you guys should start doing it, if its that cut and dry. You have to remember, that not everyone is an expert and not every tuner out there gives the best advice.
Not trying to start anything...just my .02
There are far to many variables to give specific tuning instructions to prevent mishaps. It might actually get us into more trouble by doing that. We do state that we don’t warranty engines because of tuning. That’s my opinion at to say the least its a very good suggestion
Thanks
Dan
Those were my exact thoughts, too.holy fuckin dickface batman wtf ? wow shit i'm speechless
Those were my exact thoughts, too.
Well... not really.
That is all good information, but the comment I was replying to was "at those compression ratios", not boost (pressure) levels.
There was VERY MUCH an implied "at those boost levels" in his comment on your compression ratio. Quoting the fuel manufacturer's info on compression ratios implied that you where assuming compression ratio was compression ratio and it didn't matter if you where NA or boosted.
per fuel makers, compression and heat cause pre-ignition regardless of the boost levels.
Now there is a direct relationship between boost pressure and compression, as the boost pressure is compressing the a/f mix prior to the compression stroke, during the "intake" stroke. It is called "effective compression ratio", and is calculated like this --> ((boost in psi / 14.7) + 1) x motor compression = effective compression ratio.
If you use the effective compression ratio to figure out if you need race gas, you will find that everyone boosted at 2 PSI or higher fit into the "101 oct race fuel recommend" class according to VP Fuels. We all know there is absolutely no one using race fuel, every tank, for a daily driver on 2 psi of boost.
Since I have a new Livernios stroker and will be running about 15psi, do you guys think the fuel additive, Torco Accelerator would be any additional benifit to help reduce detonation while running 93 oct? Thanks