Hot Rod cams install=code P0022 with the BBR tune but runs fine on the JLT tune..?

[2L8IWON]

So Greg, how do you like those cams? Do they at least sound good at idle?

 

[Greg Hazlett]

When the car is running right they sound good....more work ahead of me this weekend.

 

[08StangGT_CS]

Any sound clips/videos?

 

[motorheadchuck]

Well let me know what your results are greg, as you and I are in the same boat at the moment, and I think the hole is getting bigger......

 

[Greg Hazlett]

I will...I had my timing cover off my 97 GT but that was with the engine out of the car so this will be interesting!

 

[US-1]

So Greg, how do you like those cams? Do they at least sound good at idle?

"Oh yeah, man...they SOUND great at an idle. Doesn't run worth a shit and has all kinds of issues going into limp mode, fucked up shit with the tunes, and weird things going on but they SOUND great!"

 

[trill gear head]

Hey greg, if you can get your hands on a in lb torque wrench I would say to re-torque all the camshaft bearing caps. Converting ft. lb into in. lb. doesn't quite work.

 

[Lower ET Than u]

change the TTY cam bolts while your in there this time

 

[US-1]

Hey greg, if you can get your hands on a in lb torque wrench I would say to re-torque all the camshaft bearing caps. Converting ft. lb into in. lb. doesn't quite work.

change the TTY cam bolts while your in there this time

"I can't figure out why I have all these problems after my cam swap."

 

[motorheadchuck]

I am having the same problem with mine, and I have new cam phaser bolts, and used an inch lb torque wrench when needed, so Im pretty sure you can cross that off the list of being the problem. Ive also tossed on a new set of cam phasers since the issue began, and still no improvement

 

[94tbird]

I am having the same problem with mine, and I have new cam phaser bolts, and used an inch lb torque wrench when needed, so Im pretty sure you can cross that off the list of being the problem. Ive also tossed on a new set of cam phasers since the issue began, and still no improvement

have you removed your timing cover and absolutely double checked the timing properly by bringing cyl 1 to TDC and making sure all the timing marks on the chains, cam gears, and crank gear match?

 

[rojizostang]

/\/\ i'll venture a "no" on that one. i feel like i lucked out now with my cam install after all the trouble some of us are having. i just have a hard time understanding how the timing could be lost at the crank gear if the wedge was installed before disconnecting the camshaft sprockets. i don't get it. there was no chance when did mine that i lost the timing.

 

[ArtQ]

/\/\ i'll venture a "no" on that one. i feel like i lucked out now with my cam install after all the trouble some of us are having. i just have a hard time understanding how the timing could be lost at the crank gear if the wedge was installed before disconnecting the camshaft sprockets. i don't get it. there was no chance when did mine that i lost the timing.

What did you use for the wedge?

 

[irishpwr46]

check the oil pressure while the car is running

 

[94tbird]

/\/\ i'll venture a "no" on that one. i feel like i lucked out now with my cam install after all the trouble some of us are having. i just have a hard time understanding how the timing could be lost at the crank gear if the wedge was installed before disconnecting the camshaft sprockets. i don't get it. there was no chance when did mine that i lost the timing.

because the wedge isnt perfect, and because there is a ton of slack in the chains even with pressure at times. Ive retimed my car 3x already, once when replacing the oil pump, and 2 more times because i hada noise and wanted to eliminate timing as an issue. 2 of the 3 times i did it by removing the cover. only the middle time idd i use the wedge tool. IMO best to take the extra hours work and remove the timing cover to do a job like this to VISUALLY note the timing is perfect.

 

[motorheadchuck]

i havnt had a chance to yet, I am going to as soon as I get a chance, I build old skool hot rods for a living and everyone wants there stuff done now. Gotta love and hate when the weather gets nice.

 

[Greg Hazlett]

check the oil pressure while the car is running

With? The stock oil pressure gauge shows it is fine.

 

[dysan]

That is just a dummy gauge. For a problem like this you would really want an accurate reading.

 

[Greg Hazlett]

because the wedge isnt perfect, and because there is a ton of slack in the chains even with pressure at times. Ive retimed my car 3x already, once when replacing the oil pump, and 2 more times because i hada noise and wanted to eliminate timing as an issue. 2 of the 3 times i did it by removing the cover. only the middle time idd i use the wedge tool. IMO best to take the extra hours work and remove the timing cover to do a job like this to VISUALLY note the timing is perfect.

I don't understand where the slack is/was as when we were putting the wedge in the chains were tight, no slack whatsover...?

 

[Greg Hazlett]

That is just a dummy gauge. For a problem like this you would really want an accurate reading.

I agree which is why I asked what to check it with.