mrt2you
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i don't want to sound like a ass. i am posting for you to completely think your plan thru before you spend to much time and $$ and end up injuring or worse yet kill someone. and like i said YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT and this will be my last post about this.
and yes i have read the entire post.
i am no insurance agent selling insurance, but in my experiences i don't think you will be able to buy enough at a reasonable cost to cover yourself in case something bad were to happen. but then again that's your problem not mine.
again not to be a ass, but from how i read your posts, in my OPINION, you really don't fully understand how air bags work and the extreme forces behind air bag deployment. the cover MUST BE EXTREMELY FLEXIBLE to allow proper air bag deployment. real carbon fiber isn't. that's why the OEM covers are made out of vinyl or a flexible plastic, the side bag covers feel stiff because there are ridges cast into the edges. when a air bag deploys it tears inside of the edges.
i originally thought you made covers, but i was wrong and i apologize. but i now understand you make new covers "BUT WITH REAL. CARBON FIBER".in my opinin that's not really much better in a air bag deployment situation. real carbon fiber is NOT flexible and easily breaks and shatters when its bent extensivly. then you state in your original post "still have the aluminum and plastic/rubber backing so it doesn't fly apart and shatter everywhere". my question for you is how are you magically going to make sure the carbon fiber doesn't de laminate and shatter from the under layer of plastic and aluminum and still allow the air bag balloon to inflate properly? and how are you actually going to attach the 3 products together so they don't separate at the extreme forces of a air bag deployment and still allow it to inflate properly? because the carbon fiber resins won't hold everything together properly under air bag deployment.
also you compare replacing the cover with "real carbon fiber" with hydro dipping with a DECAL. they aren't even close and the 2 are in different worlds as far as flexibility. i also posted that i would cut the decal at the break lines for added safety. and i also stated i wouldn't be comfortable doing this.
from what i remember from training a air bag deploys in under 1/ 25 of a SECOND. also if i remember correctly a air bag deploys at speeds of around 100mph. when traveling at 30 mph, the air bag deploys and is 1/2 deflated in the time it takes your head to move forward 1". that's how fast it happens.
here are a couple of videos from you tube of air bag deployment. there are a LOT more if you search, i just linked the first 2 from when i searched.
in the first video you can see how the air bag deploys at a curve on the cover when it tears. you can see the cover bends WELL over 1", more like 5" or 6", before the bag is fully deployed. can real carbon fiber do that? how will it not shatter and become a projectile?
in the second video it shows the forces behind a air bag when it deploys. it shows throwing a mini spare tire +20' in the air when sitting on top of it during air bag deployment.
and yes i have read the entire post.
i am no insurance agent selling insurance, but in my experiences i don't think you will be able to buy enough at a reasonable cost to cover yourself in case something bad were to happen. but then again that's your problem not mine.
again not to be a ass, but from how i read your posts, in my OPINION, you really don't fully understand how air bags work and the extreme forces behind air bag deployment. the cover MUST BE EXTREMELY FLEXIBLE to allow proper air bag deployment. real carbon fiber isn't. that's why the OEM covers are made out of vinyl or a flexible plastic, the side bag covers feel stiff because there are ridges cast into the edges. when a air bag deploys it tears inside of the edges.
i originally thought you made covers, but i was wrong and i apologize. but i now understand you make new covers "BUT WITH REAL. CARBON FIBER".in my opinin that's not really much better in a air bag deployment situation. real carbon fiber is NOT flexible and easily breaks and shatters when its bent extensivly. then you state in your original post "still have the aluminum and plastic/rubber backing so it doesn't fly apart and shatter everywhere". my question for you is how are you magically going to make sure the carbon fiber doesn't de laminate and shatter from the under layer of plastic and aluminum and still allow the air bag balloon to inflate properly? and how are you actually going to attach the 3 products together so they don't separate at the extreme forces of a air bag deployment and still allow it to inflate properly? because the carbon fiber resins won't hold everything together properly under air bag deployment.
also you compare replacing the cover with "real carbon fiber" with hydro dipping with a DECAL. they aren't even close and the 2 are in different worlds as far as flexibility. i also posted that i would cut the decal at the break lines for added safety. and i also stated i wouldn't be comfortable doing this.
from what i remember from training a air bag deploys in under 1/ 25 of a SECOND. also if i remember correctly a air bag deploys at speeds of around 100mph. when traveling at 30 mph, the air bag deploys and is 1/2 deflated in the time it takes your head to move forward 1". that's how fast it happens.
here are a couple of videos from you tube of air bag deployment. there are a LOT more if you search, i just linked the first 2 from when i searched.
in the first video you can see how the air bag deploys at a curve on the cover when it tears. you can see the cover bends WELL over 1", more like 5" or 6", before the bag is fully deployed. can real carbon fiber do that? how will it not shatter and become a projectile?
in the second video it shows the forces behind a air bag when it deploys. it shows throwing a mini spare tire +20' in the air when sitting on top of it during air bag deployment.
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