Spark Plug Removal

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Well very interesting experience. Got some things to pass on about our plugs.
After reading all the broken plug and removal issues as well as the TSB's from hell about it I decided to do a little Preventative Maintenance.
First of all it is a bitch to say the least.
Not difficult but one wrong move and you could be screwed.
First off the issue:
The plug has an extension the extends past the base of the plug into the cylinder chamber. The plug is also a multi piece design. The extension is one part, the actual plug base the the second part, and the remainder is the core and ceramic.
Carbon builds up between the plug extension and the hole it fits thru.
It is like a pencil in a straw.
This carbon freezes the extension to the head and makes it very difficult to unscrew the plug from the head.
If the carbon is bad it can break the extension off and leave it in the head.
Not Good.
Now the fix:
First you must remove the plug. This is where you can go wrong in a hurry.
They are tight and want to Squeal when removing (meaning they are seizing).
What you need to do is loosen that carbon gripping the plug.
Here is how.
1. Remove the coil.
2. Loosen the plug 1/4 to 1/2 turn only. It squeals like hell too.
3. Get yourself some Stoddard Solvent (P-D-680 to you Military types). It dissolves carbon like crazy. And it is cheap. I paid 7.50 a gallon from the local Oil Distributor (Kellerstraus for you locals); just bring something to take it in like a gas can.
4. Pour a little into the plug hole (about 3 Tablespoons), just enough to let it weep around the plug you loosened and down to the carbon.
5. Let it sit about 15 to 30 minutes.
6. Remove your plug. Comes out mucho easier.
7. Use a scotch bright pad to remove any carbon still on the plug.
8. Inspect your plugs for damage and looseness. Grab the ceramic and the extension and twist it slightly. If it is loose at all replace it. It be broken.
9. DO NOT Put anti-seize on the extension as Ford recommends. It only melts and runs down the electrode and causes missing. Clean the plug in your solvent.
10. Clean the plug wells of the solvent left over (Stick a rag in it and soak it up).
11. Install your plugs and torque to 25 ft/lbs.
12. Reinstall you coils and fire it up. You will get a bit of white smoke for a little as the solvent burns out of the cylinder.
13. Drive around the block.
If you feel a miss and throw a code then recheck the plug ya got the code for.

You be done.
BTW I broke one plug (Ceramic was loose in the plug). Didn't even know it was broke till I started up again. Threw code P0308 #8 Misfire.
They are $12 Bucks each at the local Checker if they have them.
HT-1 Autolights FYI.
Not Cheap!!

Oh and Champion has done a redesign to a one piece base and extension.
$20.00 ea. Ouch.
 
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Word of warning all.
Dont use the damn anti-seize.
It melts and runs down the plug to the electrode.
Then the damn car starts missing here and there.
What a pain this is gonna be till it all clears out.
And I used a real thin layer on it.

:piss:
 

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Weird. I've been using Loctite copper anti-seize (couldn't get nickle at the time) and have not had any issues and I've applied it 3 seperate times. I used Liquid Wrench when I first pulled them at 20k. I've since switched to HT0s and didn't have issues with the anti-seize then either.
 

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Well I did use a High Temp AS.
Good to some 1600 degrees.
I am pulling them today and cleaning all the AS out of the holes and plugs.
I would go to a dry film next time.
These problems shouldn't happen then.
As far as the problem cause...
Well that is for another thread.
 

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Even after cleaning them and Cleaning the AS from the plugs and holes I still had missing.
However a new set of HT-1s seemed to have cured the problems.
I am suspecting I had more plugs broke then I thought.
Maybe the initial removal broke or cracked them internally.
It sucked those first turns initially.
Could be the AS was not a problem?
Whatever the cause it seems to be fixed.
Cross your fingers...
 

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ford Spark Plug Tsb>


fyi,


kc
 

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Brisk plugs are the best.

Won't ever have to worry about them breaking off inside the head like the OEMs.
 

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so i decided to be brave and take a stab at swapping in my HT0's... everything went great.. except the 1 plug on the passenger rear bank.. it doesnt make much sense to me really.. the thread will break loose, but it wont pull out, i can tighten it back up, the lubricant was still puddled in the the spark plug hole like it wont seep down past the threads. ? when i try to take it out it will loosen up but just keep spinning yet i cant pull it out. so i put all the other new plugs in, and tightend this stock HT1 back up and it starts and runs good, no missfire's or codes. i called the ford dealership and they said they would charge me to have one of thier guys get that plug out even though they know of the TSB and know that these spark plugs are a problem WTF? this is about some BULLSH*T. any ideas or suggestions?
 

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so i decided to be brave and take a stab at swapping in my HT0's... everything went great.. except the 1 plug on the passenger rear bank.. it doesnt make much sense to me really.. the thread will break loose, but it wont pull out, i can tighten it back up, the lubricant was still puddled in the the spark plug hole like it wont seep down past the threads. ? when i try to take it out it will loosen up but just keep spinning yet i cant pull it out. so i put all the other new plugs in, and tightend this stock HT1 back up and it starts and runs good, no missfire's or codes. i called the ford dealership and they said they would charge me to have one of thier guys get that plug out even though they know of the TSB and know that these spark plugs are a problem WTF? this is about some BULLSH*T. any ideas or suggestions?

The heads have inserts in them for the threads (Helicoils).
Sounds like coil has broken loose.
Now another thing to check.
Is the plug actually backing out at all?
It could be the carbon has formed around the bottom and preventing you from removing the plug.
If the plug is coming out just stuck you need to loosen it as much as you can then put your carbon dissolving solvent and let it sit perhaps overnight.
That is where Stoddard solvent comes in handy. It evaporates really slowly.

Good luck and let us know what the verdict is.
 

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I believe that the shield has separated from the body but the porcelain is keeping it together. There are no helicoils in the heads unless someone already put it there which I doubt.
 

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Thump you is right.
Ford just threaded the aluminum.
Not too bright on the Engineers part IMO.
There is a insert repair kit that confused me.
Anyhow look close at the plug and see if it is really backing out.
Seeing that no misfire is happening I doubt the plug broke.
I had some just crack and they wouldnt run worth crap.
 

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