You may change your opinion of Livernois...

[ZmanM3]

No one is hurt except for Mark, Bud

Pretty true, and yes some of it is self inflicted, but then again, most of it is not. And hell, I had first dibbs on that engine from months ago. That ST Short block would have ran great with my Saleen S/C and Livernois III heads.

 

[lostsoul]

checkbook racer.. hahah.. I thought most on here were check book racers. Except SD(big fancy contract with Viagra).

It doesn't matter if Mark is richer then bill gates. It doesn't matter if he can or cant build an engine up with simple hand tools. What does matter is there is a hunk of metal laying somewhere that cost him allot of money from an unknown failure.

Really, would any of us be any different if something like this happened. He was told it was the cams.. he is going off info that others give him. If its wrong then let all parties involved find the right answer. Bagging on the guy is not doing anything to find the answer. imo

besides he was on MMFF and you weren't

 

[94tbird]

checkbook racer.. hahah.. I thought most on here were check book racers.

Not me. I put it together, break it myself, fix it myself ha

 

[Steedman07]

Not for nothing, but I would have put a gun to my temple after the first $50k..ANd dont even ask me what I would have done at $70k..

In all seriousness, I would be extremly fucking pissed off at the world if what happened in his situation to him, happened to me..I hate when there is none or little accountability, in this situation, and in life in general.

 

[94tbird]

Not for nothing, but I would have put a gun to my temple after the first $50k..ANd dont even ask me what I would have done at $70k..

In all seriousness, I would be extremly fucking pissed off at the world if what happened in his situation to him, happened to me..I hate when there is none or little accountability, in this situation, and in life in general.

Unfortunately as most people find out, that is racing.

 

[Hawgman]

guys enough kicking Mark whiles he's in the midst of this BS ok. Lets be gentlemen, contribute something useful or don't post, please and TIA.

my

Well said.

I completely disagree. Mark has always seeked out public approval and public opinion and always seemed to think it was best to try to resolve issues in the public eye instead of keeping things behind closed doors like most everyone else does. So why not let the public voice their opinion.

 

[stkjock]

i have no issue with opinions being expressed, just seemed to me to be getting a bit personal and attacks (my view) on Mark, IMO - just not needed or constructive to anything.

"and that's all I have to say about that" F. Gump

 

[white05gt]

I completely disagree. Mark has always seeked out public approval and public opinion and always seemed to think it was best to try to resolve issues in the public eye instead of keeping things behind closed doors like most everyone else does. So why not let the public voice their opinion.

Very well said

 

[jeostang]

i have no issue with opinions being expressed, just seemed to me to be getting a bit personal and attacks (my view) on Mark, IMO - just not needed or constructive to anything.

"and that's all I have to say about that" F. Gump

I agree.

And why did I just read your Gump quote in the actually Forrest Gump Voice.??

 

[05stroker]

I agree.

And why did I just read your Gump quote in the actually Forrest Gump Voice.??

Is that you , Bubba ?

 

[terry5357]

I am still curious where "no warranty starts". It seems to me that the motor has to be built and running and handed to the "check writer" before "no warranty even starts. It looks to me that the OP never even got that. Whether he's a cry baby or the best guy in the world, he still wrote a check for services and he hasn't so far even gotten that. It looks like the motor was assembled, a test run made, and then nothing that could be delivered to the purchaser of services. TO me that would be the issue, not who's fault it is. He was doing business with Livernois who from what I've read is still working with the OP, just as livernois should do. I would not be surprised if Livernois did what they are responsible for and that is handing the man a fully funtional motor with all the items that he paid for.

 

[07torchgt]

I am still curious where "no warranty starts". It seems to me that the motor has to be built and running and handed to the "check writer" before "no warranty even starts. It looks to me that the OP never even got that. Whether he's a cry baby or the best guy in the world, he still wrote a check for services and he hasn't so far even gotten that. It looks like the motor was assembled, a test run made, and then nothing that could be delivered to the purchaser of services. TO me that would be the issue, not who's fault it is. He was doing business with Livernois who from what I've read is still working with the OP, just as livernois should do. I would not be surprised if Livernois did what they are responsible for and that is handing the man a fully funtional motor with all the items that he paid for.

thats not entirely true, if you read the whole story, someone may have messed up the heads because someone assembled the motor incorrectly... thats seems to be what damaged the heads...

 

[lostsoul]

I'd like to find out how much HP they were pumping in. Looks like Adam was aiming for 800rwhp and mark was looking for 1000+ rwhp.

theres been so much stuff my head hurts. haha

 

[07torchgt]

I'd like to find out how much HP they were pumping in. Looks like Adam was aiming for 800rwhp and mark was looking for 1000+ rwhp.

theres been so much stuff my head hurts. haha

its just too bad the rods weren't made out of Big Jim Slades bicep muscle fibers... then they would be good to eleventy billion RWHP

 

[ZmanM3]

I am still curious where "no warranty starts". It seems to me that the motor has to be built and running and handed to the "check writer" before "no warranty even starts. It looks to me that the OP never even got that. Whether he's a cry baby or the best guy in the world, he still wrote a check for services and he hasn't so far even gotten that. It looks like the motor was assembled, a test run made, and then nothing that could be delivered to the purchaser of services. TO me that would be the issue, not who's fault it is. He was doing business with Livernois who from what I've read is still working with the OP, just as livernois should do. I would not be surprised if Livernois did what they are responsible for and that is handing the man a fully funtional motor with all the items that he paid for.

The short block ran find for some time. Mark switched FI and head setup.

thats not entirely true, if you read the whole story, someone may have messed up the heads because someone assembled the motor incorrectly... thats seems to be what damaged the heads...

I'd like to find out how much HP they were pumping in. Looks like Adam was aiming for 800rwhp and mark was looking for 1000+ rwhp.

theres been so much stuff my head hurts. haha

1. Engine was build for Whipple S/C combo.
2. Said Whipple took a dump & Mark decided to go different FI setup.
3. While doing turbo build Mark decided to get special Livernois 3r Heads and custom Comp Cams all assembled by Livernois.
4. Mark had heads flow tested.
5. Mark had everything assembled at RET.
6. Car wouldn't start or turn over.
7. Engine I wanted to buy was jacked up while they were trying to start it.
8. Mark gets pissed and vents on internet.

 

[Lee's05GT]

I agree.

And why did I just read your Gump quote in the actually Forrest Gump Voice.??

lmao!!!

 

[jsawyer]

The short block ran find for some time. Mark switched FI and head setup.







1. Engine was build for Whipple S/C combo.
2. Said Whipple took a dump & Mark decided to go different FI setup.
3. While doing turbo build Mark decided to get special Livernois 3r Heads and custom Comp Cams all assembled by Livernois.
4. Mark had heads flow tested.
5. Mark had everything assembled at RET.
6. Car wouldn't start or turn over.
7. Engine I wanted to buy was jacked up while they were trying to start it.
8. Mark gets pissed and vents on internet.

This is very accurate from what I have read over the past few months. There should be one place answering questions and it is not Livernois, JDM, Whipple, or ST.

 

[DirtyDogOfTheDesert]

This is very accurate from what I have read over the past few months. There should be one place answering questions and it is not Livernois, JDM, Whipple, or ST.

I'm sure we'll be hearing more of Mark's thoughts on RET once he gets his car out of their shop.

 

[SD07GT]

This is very accurate from what I have read over the past few months. There should be one place answering questions and it is not Livernois, JDM, Whipple, or ST.

I would put my money on # 5 !

 

[Dex]

I'm sure we'll be hearing more of Mark's thoughts on RET once he gets his car out of their shop.