new turbo kit

i have recently been informed that on3 performance has released a turbo kit for the s197's for around $2k. im pretty sure its a copy of the hellion kit but who knows. i do know a guy personally that ran a kit by this company on his 8.8x 1/4 mile fox body and he had no issues with it at all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/On-3...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1e5ad3b132

DAMN! Those pipes hang low.

Very intrested in what SD & a few other knowlegeable people have to say about this kit.

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Ok I didn't read the fine print but here goes ......

As far as the on3 performance themselves I have actually heard pretty good things about them from the 5.0 crowd they said the welds and fab work was pretty unreal for the price . I have never seen a kit first hand but from the pics I have seen on install photos they look pretty good . I was actually going to put one on a fox if I got it . They are basically a BG turbo clone kit also .

This kit looks to be a damn near direct copy of the hellion kit with a little turbonetics merged in , The main downfall of this kit is the low hanging pipes under the k-member/a-arms , if ya don't believe me ask Randy ( Rypper1 ) The second is clearance around the bellhousing/tranny itself . The main downfall to these kits are the use of knock off parts ( BOV , WG , TURBO , ETC. ) Once you add in these parts you get up to roughly the same amount as all the others on the market . Can this kit work and make power ? Yep ! would you catch this kit on my DD/streetcar ? NOPE I don't mind blowing up a 200 5.0 motor but trashing a 3v again ....aint happenin

well the kit just came out so i know nothing about it. however one of my friend runs consistent 8.9-9.0 in his fox body with a on3 performance kit. ill try to kit some pics and vids of the car.

CraigNnem said:

Very intrested in what SD & a few other knowlegeable people have to say about this kit.

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You sure you want to hear what I have to say about it?

Do the letters P.O.S. mean anything to you? Note they do not say exactly what turbo comes with the base kit. Only that you can upgrade to other units. The intercooler is 2.5" thick? Any air/air intercooler under 3" should be tossed out into the street and run over. Injectors....39# take outs????? They recommend a Boost-A-Pump? Please....should say GT500 dual pump setup as a minimum. As Beau pointed out, the no-name stuff in the kit is what really bugs me. Not to mention the fact that these guys have been copying Hellion for years then whoring their stuff out on TurboMustangs.com and Ebay.

And if you tested it at 5psi then why didn't you test it at 6psi or 8psi? That whole "coming soon" line is a bunch of shit.

jroc07gt said:

well the kit just came out so i know nothing about it. however one of my friend runs consistent 8.9-9.0 in his fox body with a on3 performance kit. ill try to kit some pics and vids of the car.

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That is probably a copy of another Hellion setup. Building a system really isn't that hard. Hell, Rick's been 235 mph at Bonneville with a single turbo system he built over a weekend.

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You sure you want to hear what I have to say about it?

Do the letters P.O.S. mean anything to you? Note they do not say exactly what turbo comes with the base kit. Only that you can upgrade to other units. The intercooler is 2.5" thick? Any air/air intercooler under 3" should be tossed out into the street and run over. Injectors....39# take outs????? They recommend a Boost-A-Pump? Please....should say GT500 dual pump setup as a minimum. As Beau pointed out, the no-name stuff in the kit is what really bugs me. Not to mention the fact that these guys have been copying Hellion for years then whoring their stuff out on TurboMustangs.com and Ebay.

And if you tested it at 5psi then why didn't you test it at 6psi or 8psi? That whole "coming soon" line is a bunch of shit.


That is probably a copy of another Hellion setup. Building a system really isn't that hard. Hell, Rick's been 235 mph at Bonneville with a single turbo system he built over a weekend.

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like i said it was a on3 performance kit which is a copy hellion no doubt. it held up goos on his car but im sure it wasnt the base kit either. the motor started as a 351, where it ended im not sure. the car went into the 8's and trapped about 150. the kit looks like it works better on older models cuz of fitment.

I bought hotside piping from HP for a single 88mm, SN95 we were doing and it was around $1500 alone. I think this is a decent buy at $1800, for a shade tree fabricator who doesn't mind adjusting the fitment (bandsaw/TIG req'd), getting another cooler, and opting for the MasterPower T76. The MasterPower turbos are not bad units (presonal experience). I have found journal bearing turbos to be much more forgiving on a daily driver, as ball bearing turbos don't like oil coking in them.

Thats definitley an interesting kit....but US-1 hits it on the head. There is alot of unknowns with the kits and room for improvement all around to make the kit sound to make decent power.

Hell of a deal for someone who wants to expirement with it though.

Hey I have the kit and posted up a build thread because some people were knocking it.http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30713, I have nothing but good things to say about it so far. I think you'd be really happy with the kit so far I have a total of about 2,800 in it and all I need is a tune. I'd say thats pretty darn good.

if you upgrade the turbo, wastegate and BOV, ure still around 3k... not bad huh?
add injectors, gt500 pump etc and uve got yourself a complete power kit for what? like $5k..
seems ok to me

Those pipes do hang low. Not a bad proce for the piping. I would throw a different turbo on anyways.

Hellion copy for sure.

China strikes again lol

damn, talk about customer service, emailed them earlier and got a reply within an hour...

anyways, you can get the kit without the turbo, and they will take 240$ off...

Also, theyve upgraded the intercooler to a larger core.. 3" IIRC

id drop a turbonetics or sumthin on that bitch!

Crazy thing is there's only 2 of them that do the on3 stuff. He's def a cool guy n will do anything to help you.

cliffymorris said:

id drop a turbonetics or sumthin on that bitch!

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Nah, I'd upgrade to the MP T-70 or T-76 and never look back. They are also compatable with Turbonetics turbine housings.

Remember guys, you always get what you pay for. If it is cheaper (like MMR stuff), its cheaper for a reason.

Eric@BrooksSpeed said:

Remember guys, you always get what you pay for. If it is cheaper (like MMR stuff), its cheaper for a reason.

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He has a thread on this, so we will see.
http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30713

Eric@BrooksSpeed said:

Remember guys, you always get what you pay for. If it is cheaper (like MMR stuff), its cheaper for a reason.

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well at my age its worth the risk, to an extent...

If you upgrade the vital organs to brand names like precision and tial, i think its a happy median between cost, performance and risk...

anyways, lets see how things develop and the results will be the ultimate decider...