2018(+) intake swap to S197 - anything new?

[Jgt58]

That would be the cobra jet intake. The boss does look cool though. I went back and forth on the boss or the 2018.


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I had the 18. Sold it and fixing to go boss....

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[RED09GT]

I like LMR as a company but hate this video. They shut the pull on the stock motor down at just over 6000 rpm and the power is still climbing when they shut it down. I've seen lots of dyno sheets from bone stock 2011's that peaked at 6500-6600 rpms.
I have no doubt that the 2018 intake will run away and hide from the stocker from 6500+ rpms but I severely doubt the 20 peak HP gain. I think it is probably only a single digit HP gain peak to peak-if that.

 

[Dino Dino Bambino]

You've nailed it. The HP curves with the stock 2011-14 intake manifold and the 2018 intake manifold would probably overlay up to 6500rpm but above that, the 2018 manifold holds the HP closer to peak up to 7500rpm whereas the HP curve with the stock intake drops off pretty quickly.

 

[Juice]

Stock 2013 GT manifold can make 400 rwhp with just a tune.
I was interested in this swap to gain some usable RPMs up top, not as a bolt on hp mod.

 

[GERMANSHEPERD]

Man what a skewed test. Your testing an UNTUNED engine shutting it off at 600 rpm lower against a tuned engine with the 18+ intake taking it 600 RPM higher.
I’m sure this intake is better for a fully built car but ill bet you get 75% of that power increase with a good tune and the stock intake manifold.

 

[Juice]

The extra rmps is the selling point of this manifold. Thats my thoughts on it.

 

[Jgt58]

The extra rmps is the selling point of this manifold. Thats my thoughts on it.

Agreed.

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[arena314]

absolutely, wouldnt put an intake on without turning the rpm up with a good tune. 7500 easy

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[Juice]

You better put in oil pump gears if you plan on going to 7500 rpms.

 

[Jgt58]

You better put in oil pump gears if you plan on going to 7500 rpms.

Do you have any factual evidence that this needs to be done? It was my understanding that our oil pumps are pretty stout.

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[Juice]

Yes. My tuner had a blown up coyote a certain tuner shop blew up on their dyno.
My tumer does a LOT of coyotes. He has seen many stock oil pumps go boom. Stay under 7500 or put in forged gears.

Ex tuner, since I got PRP.

The blown up coyote was NEW btw. A 2016.

 

[Juice]

I have mine at 7200 redline. That is what ford puts it at in the control pack.

 

[arena314]

I have mmr gears, mmr cs, I would shift at 7700 pretty often now with the paxton I dont go past 7-7200 but my limiter is up at 7800 just so I dont hit it. Car did it fine everytime and definitely feel gains all the way through

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[Juice]

My ex-tuner and friend would not bullshit me on stock oil pump's limits.
Set your limits where you want. I just put that out there as an FYI. Oh, and when the oil pump lets go, the car is likely being pushed hard. That '16 put the front 2 rods through the block... The heads may have been usable....

 

[Juice]

Wrong thread lol

 

[arena314]

I'm agreeing with juice the opg's are a must do when wanting to shift over 7k reliably. I also think the engine would likely be fine shifting to 74-7500 every ONCE in a while without opg's as long as your not on the limiter or doing it all the time. That being said I personally would want the peice of mind of having opg's and shifting that high and that's why I got it done.

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[Dino Dino Bambino]

Man what a skewed test. Your testing an UNTUNED engine shutting it off at 600 rpm lower against a tuned engine with the 18+ intake taking it 600 RPM higher.
I’m sure this intake is better for a fully built car but ill bet you get 75% of that power increase with a good tune and the stock intake manifold.

Here's another dyno sheet:

All the HP/TQ gains are from 5500rpm upwards with the biggest gains above 6500rpm. At lower rpm there's no significant difference.

 

[Wayne Worthen]

my 2018 intake swap is done and I made my stock engine cover fit, for a stealthy look.

 

[J.Kidd]

Wayne, that’s exactly what I would do.

How do you like it?
Is there a noticeable difference?
Did you have a tune written?
Any before/after dyno sheets?

 

[Wayne Worthen]

Interesting video, and I actually have been comparing a stock 2013 Airbox, and a JLT 2 CAI.
I have come to two conclusions so far:
Factory airbox wins for lower temperatures by a small margin.
Both get heatsoaked in traffic and IATs climb.

Last test will be laptimes, stock air box vs cai.

My Airaid race airbox w/home made cover, runs as cold as stock now. Tuned by Mat at Steeda, 2018 manifold ported it myself.