lol...damn i really didnt mean to make this into an arguement lol. Ken I take back my comment about johns car. Maybe no expense wasn't sparred. I know what that engine from L&M would cost me though....and its a lot. I still disagree 100% about building these cars fast though. I may not be as recognized as you but ive been racing and running mustangs for over 15 years, and the fastest ones have the most money in them. As far as the new 5.0's, its not a mystery as to what makes them go fast.....Big Blower, Big Fuel, Auto trans/convertor, maybe a hit of nitrous out the hole and all the other little knick knacks that add up to what I know is in every one of those cars that comes out of these shops. Then you get a couple private track rentals, run it 50-100 times and BAMMMMM. All that takes time and lots and lots of money. You esentially invented a unique way of getting there with your own tt kit, thats why you deserve the credit, but to throw a huge whipple on a car with lots of boost and add every other supporting mod and think you have some secret recipe is a joke. Im not saying anything you dont already know, but to get from 10.5 to 9.5 takes money and more money. Now since i have started this inadvertantly I now feel obligated to show up that monday to watch you guys battle it out....good luck.