wbt, if the #8 was a tuning issue, then all cars running that same exact tune would have that issue. That hasn't been the case so far. every tuner has had a couple, the most popular tuners have had more than others because they have sent out more tunes and more cars are running them. I'm still debating that issue in the other thread about it. it's like the 3v s197, there are thousands of people running vortech superchargers with an e-mail tune, one person had their blow up on a dyno at 380whp that doesn't mean that the e-mal tune was bad or that the 3 valve can only handle that much power. he just had a weak point on his engine that manifested under that strain. it's unlucky. that guy never did figure out why it happened, everything looked good with the tune and the install, just a weak rod.