No more piston cooling jets

[302]

Why not Boss pistons?

+1 why not??

 

[Twinscrewgt]

Why would you put the same crap piston back in the car. If its apart go better. If you're on a budget go BOSS

 

[Sky Render]

Why not Boss pistons?

Because I wasn't thinking when I typed that.

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[JEWC_Motorsports]

How about 13 Boss pistons????

 

[302]

How about 13 Boss pistons????

13 boss pistons < 14 boss pistons < 15 boss pistons

>.>;

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

LOL i meant the 2013 Boss pistons.............you knew that im sure.

 

[ford20]

Just curious Cobra, what do you do with all of the parts you order? Do they sit in your stock until you need them?

 

[19COBRA93]

For what it's worth, the 12 an 13 Boss run the same piston.

Yes, the parts sit in my inventory until they're needed or sold.

 

[black12]

Does anyone else think that deleting the Piston cooling jets could simply be a cost savings measure, and not necessarily because of failures? Cobra, thank you for all the awesome pics by the way! Are you certain that the jets were deleted on the stock 2013 5.0s?

 

[Sky Render]

Does anyone else think that deleting the Piston cooling jets could simply be a cost savings measure, and not necessarily because of failures?

Yes, several people said this already.

Are you certain that the jets were deleted on the stock 2013 5.0s?

Again, several people already confirmed this.

 

[Mystickeith50]

Does anyone else think that deleting the Piston cooling jets could simply be a cost savings measure, and not necessarily because of failures? Cobra, thank you for all the awesome pics by the way! Are you certain that the jets were deleted on the stock 2013 5.0s?

Yeah I agree...I know it's already been said before in this thread but I think were giving ford too much credit. What I mean is, the heat treatment and piston mods are prob used instead of the squirters because it is probably cheaper some how rather than "better". I am curious as to the block changes although I heard the only difference is the oil passages, not the coolant passages. Can't wait to see the difference and thanks for posting up the pics.

 

[SirKnightTG]

Interesting that the 5.0 would no longer have squirters when the 2013 GT500 engine has them now. Maybe they don't help until you get really high in the HP?

 

[NickSezz]

Interesting that the 5.0 would no longer have squirters when the 2013 GT500 engine has them now. Maybe they don't help until you get really high in the HP?

Or since the GT500 probably needed them more than the GT, some cost was shifted around between production lines.

I think the squirters actually limit some power in the upper rpms due to "windage."

 

[WILECYOT]

It's interesting that no one in here is looking at it from a true engineering standpoint. It's all speculation and finger pointing with the blame game.

We all are ford mustang owners. Why the hell are we bashing the companies engineers decision?

This is what's wrong with the world. No one trusts engineers anymore. What the hell is wrong with you people? We're a lot smarter than the majority of you guys, no offense, we just are. It's a fact of life. Face it, don't get your panties bunched over it. I'm not a Ford engineer but I have worked at a job where the manager always stood over the engineers shoulder and second guessed every decision the engineer made. That's a stressful ass situation and causes problems. You hired the man now let him do his job. If you didn't trust him why hire him?

If you don't trust Ford then why the hell did you buy a Mustang? Why, if you didn't know these problems before hand, do you still hold on to it?

You don't like these cars, see your way out. Sell it, don't buy one, whatever, but stop bitching because you tried to alter the factory tune and it blew up. You wanna make more power, do it right. Build the engine to handle it.

 

[NickSezz]

It's interesting that no one in here is looking at it from a true engineering standpoint. It's all speculation and finger pointing with the blame game.

We all are ford mustang owners. Why the hell are we bashing the companies engineers decision?

This is what's wrong with the world. No one trusts engineers anymore. What the hell is wrong with you people? We're a lot smarter than the majority of you guys, no offense, we just are. It's a fact of life. Face it, don't get your panties bunched over it. I'm not a Ford engineer but I have worked at a job where the manager always stood over the engineers shoulder and second guessed every decision the engineer made. That's a stressful ass situation and causes problems. You hired the man now let him do his job. If you didn't trust him why hire him?

If you don't trust Ford then why the hell did you buy a Mustang? Why, if you didn't know these problems before hand, do you still hold on to it?

You don't like these cars, see your way out. Sell it, don't buy one, whatever, but stop bitching because you tried to alter the factory tune and it blew up. You wanna make more power, do it right. Build the engine to handle it.

I agree. You engineers can be pretty darn smart. I studied mechanical engineering for two years so I have an idea of what its all about. I am just not the best at high level math That said, I do believe that some are simply better than others just like in any other profession.

As to why people are hating? That' just our nature lol. This thread simply would not be as interesting without all of the negative speculation. It causes people the think more in-depth about this topic allowing them to give their 2¢. If it was all about Ford kissing babies then I'm sure this topic would be on page 2 or 3 by now....you ever watch the 5:00 news? Not as much baby kissing as blowing shit up around the world...what would you rather watch?

 

[WILECYOT]

I agree. You engineers can be pretty darn smart. I studied mechanical engineering for two years so I have an idea of what its all about. I am just not the best at high level math That said, I do believe that some are simply better than others just like in any other profession.

As to why people are hating? That' just our nature lol. This thread simply would not be as interesting without all of the negative speculation. It causes people the think more in-depth about this topic allowing them to give their 2¢. If it was all about Ford kissing babies then I'm sure this topic would be on page 2 or 3 by now....you ever watch the 5:00 news? Not as much baby kissing as blowing shit up around the world...what would you rather watch?

This may be true but it's like the idiots that go and buy a Bama tune, a tune which wasn't designed for THEIR CAR, and expect the engine to hold it. WTF? Ford designed their engine to do what they designed it to do. They made a tune for it and it worked, beautifully within the design parameters. Getting your panties bundled because your "tuned" car took a grenade and you didn't have a knock sensor or a wideband and honestly had no idea what was going on in that engine. Bama (just using as an example, could be any mail order tune guys) could have sold you a totally faulty tune. Why blame Ford for the mistake? Hell you loaded the damn thing on to the ECU or had someone else do it.

 

[302]

It's interesting that no one in here is looking at it from a true engineering standpoint. It's all speculation and finger pointing with the blame game.

We all are ford mustang owners. Why the hell are we bashing the companies engineers decision?

This is what's wrong with the world. No one trusts engineers anymore. What the hell is wrong with you people? We're a lot smarter than the majority of you guys, no offense, we just are. It's a fact of life. Face it, don't get your panties bunched over it. I'm not a Ford engineer but I have worked at a job where the manager always stood over the engineers shoulder and second guessed every decision the engineer made. That's a stressful ass situation and causes problems. You hired the man now let him do his job. If you didn't trust him why hire him?

If you don't trust Ford then why the hell did you buy a Mustang? Why, if you didn't know these problems before hand, do you still hold on to it?

You don't like these cars, see your way out. Sell it, don't buy one, whatever, but stop bitching because you tried to alter the factory tune and it blew up. You wanna make more power, do it right. Build the engine to handle it.

Check your assumptions at the door. This board has a few active posters who are engineers and some have even posted in this thread.

 

[NickSezz]

This may be true but it's like the idiots that go and buy a Bama tune, a tune which wasn't designed for THEIR CAR, and expect the engine to hold it. WTF? Ford designed their engine to do what they designed it to do. They made a tune for it and it worked, beautifully within the design parameters. Getting your panties bundled because your "tuned" car took a grenade and you didn't have a knock sensor or a wideband and honestly had no idea what was going on in that engine. Bama (just using as an example, could be any mail order tune guys) could have sold you a totally faulty tune. Why blame Ford for the mistake? Hell you loaded the damn thing on to the ECU or had someone else do it.

I checked my tune..Looks good . I feel it is a absolutely necessary to log any after-market mail tune. You wouldn't change your oil and not check the stick after...would you?

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

If anybody thinks FORD made the piston and block changes merely to cut cost and not fix a first year subpar design then you be ignant and need to turn in your keys. I'm no mechanic but the changes seem to reflect a previous two years worth of potential inferiority...........or else they shaved the miniscual amout of metal off the piston to sell to the Arabs in exchange for enslaved wimmens. lol


Carry on...........who shot JFK?

 

[WILECYOT]

I checked my tune..Looks good . I feel it is a absolutely necessary to log any after-market mail tune. You wouldn't change your oil and not check the stick after...would you?

There you go. Someone knows what's going on. Are you logging AFRs?