3V Rockerarm Tool OEM Brand

Samos3

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So I am getting ready to tackle the rockerarms/lash adjusters/phasers on my 3v. I ordered both the PQY tool and the OEM brand copy of the Ford service tool.
I read the reviews of the OEM tool and some were not so positive with reports of breakage and the knob not quite reaching or damaging threads, but many were positive, if a bit annoyed at the fussiness of using it.

I figured I'd mess around with an old head. Obviously, its much easier off the car!

Well, it was actually pretty good, but I can say it was definitely a little fussy.

What I figured out:
-place the forked part of the tool all the way in position and hold it up against the cam. Take the knob portion off the depressor part. Drop the depressor part into the head. It's a little fussy (there's that word again...), but simple enough. The top portion with threaded nut goes up into the forked part first. To do this, let the threaded nut drop down, still holdingbthe forked part up against the cam, insert the rod up thru the forked part, rotate the threaded nut until the flat spot lines up and it will seat up inside to the forked part. Now you can lift the depressor and swing it into place over the valve retainer.
Pull up and maintain pressure while putting the knob on. If everything is right, the knob feels like it just barely catches the threads, but will go on with just turning the knob by hand, no tools. One reviewer mentioned grinding down the top of the depressor to get more thread engagement.

I was able to depress the valve quite easily turning the knob with just my hand. It did not take a lot of effort.

Not too difficult, but you have to get the sequence right. The only issue there is the clearance with the headbolt bosses. You have to watch how the foot sits on the valve retainer due to how close the bosses are. You might have to rotate the depressor left or right but its hard to do in place. You probably have to pull it out and try the other side.
This is important because it is really easy to catch the edge of the headbolt boss. I do believe this is the cause of the tools breaking. If the foot is on the boss, then the tightening of the knob the whole tool starts to act like a jack wedged between the headbolt boss and the cam. The tool is cast steel, I think, so not the strongest. Nor is it chunky. The failures reported were broken feet, broken forks and actually stripping/breaking the threads off the threaded nut. All of that makes sense if the foot is on the boss and the knob gets tightened too much. The valve will not move and if a wrench is used, something will break.

If you think you need a wrench, something ain't right!

I also noticed that the depressor foot will easily sit over a valve keeper, preventing the keepers and retainer from separating from the valve stem. It doesn't take much before the valve begins to move.

I was going to try the PQY tool, too, but.....I put it someplace where I wouldn't lose it......yeah.

Good:

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Bad:

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Rocker removed, foot sitting on retainer:

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now do the hard ones,,,
the last ones back by the firewall..
the cams are cut different and the tool wont catch as it should,,
i welded another nut on my handle to help catch the threads..
i had the Chinese one and the oem one ,,

the oem one seems to be not to tolerance in all areas either,
tho better made,,it still will get stuck in the center and will spin and get stuck (where the threaded rod base goes in,), so its hard to get the tool apart after you done one,

the pgy tool >? is that the one u need the cams off to do it?
 

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Not sure on the PQY, but probably.

My intention is to remove enough rockers to take tension off the cams, then remove the cams.
 

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If you are not replacing the valve stem seals or springs you don’t need a spring compressor. Just loosen all the cam cap bolts 1/2 turn at a time until the followers slide out. Then replace the lash adjusters and slip the new followers in place. Carefully tighten the cam cap bolts 1/2 turn at a time using the pattern shown in the overhaul manual and finish with a torque wrench.
Works a charm with no fiddling or fumbling.
 

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If you are not replacing the valve stem seals or springs you don’t need a spring compressor. Just loosen all the cam cap bolts 1/2 turn at a time until the followers slide out. Then replace the lash adjusters and slip the new followers in place. Carefully tighten the cam cap bolts 1/2 turn at a time using the pattern shown in the overhaul manual and finish with a torque wrench.
Works a charm with no fiddling or fumbling.
There's only 6 or so rockers to come out to release the tension on the cam. Then I can remove the cams and do the rest. I thought about doing as you say, but there is the *possibility* of cracking the first cap. I'd rather avoid that headache.

It's going to take enough time to do the timing components, oil pump, oil filter adapter gasket, adjusters and rockers as it is. I don't mind taking the route with the least risk.

Not doing the valve seals at this time. Doesn't seem to be smoking. Although I've done the plugs before and dealt with a few breaking, that was 80k ago. Not interested in removing them for the air fitting.
 

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now do the hard ones,,,
the last ones back by the firewall..
the cams are cut different and the tool wont catch as it should,,
i welded another nut on my handle to help catch the threads..
i had the Chinese one and the oem one ,,

the oem one seems to be not to tolerance in all areas either,
tho better made,,it still will get stuck in the center and will spin and get stuck (where the threaded rod base goes in,), so its hard to get the tool apart after you done one,

the pgy tool >? is that the one u need the cams off to do it?
After reading your reply, I got curious and messed with the tool again. I used it on a couple other valves. I did the very last one on the head. It is a tight fit for the forks between the cam lobe and the cam tower. Requires a little gentle squeezing, but it do go in. The foot was a little tricky. I found I had to drop it in and rotate it to go under/behind the sparkplug/coil boot area first then up into the forked tool. That's the only way. On one of the other valves, I did have a little trouble with the knob going on. Might have been an angle issue, but then everything seemed to pop into place.

Didn't have any issues that made me rethink using it, but I will say, this is only one of the heads and it's not on a car, soooo, I guess I'll find out!

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20260427_173458.jpg20260427_173418.jpgDropped in, nut all the way down, gentle upward pressure, foot angled before sliding up into forked tool:20260427_173558.jpg
Threaded nut seated in place and foot on valve spring retainer:
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Knob dropped onto threaded nut, but not engaged. Less than a turn and it was threaded:
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Should have been the second pic in the series. Angling under the sparkplug/coil boot area:
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I popped any out I needed with a screwdriver and a rag against the cam to protect it, you just have to get the cam in the right position.
 

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yea i had to get the oem twice because my center isnt a good fit and gets stuck in the tool itself,,

pic #3 is what im talking about, that center section isnt fitting and gets stuck ,,
the second one i have is the same .. so apparently only the OTC tool is the real one without issues

because the OEM one does as well,,,

altho yours looks like it isnt wrong and fits correct,,

hopefully yours makes it go easy peesy for ya .

-the oem one is way better then the knock off,,

the legs arent even bent in the same manner as the oem one so its way wrong
 

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