Just installed bbr stage 2 cams po345 po349 ??

[Error404]

Don't be pissed man. Shit happens. Just take a deep breath and grab some whiskey and relax. It's probably something stupid.

fixed

 

[rojizostang]

if you used the wedge and marked the chains and gears, kinda hard to see how you skipped a tooth, imho.

 

[bullitt5244]

it probaly skipped on the bottom gear somehow, i talked with BBR and they agree to take the timing cover off (fun fun) and retime it. Man i miss the fox body days.

 

[marcspaz]

If you locked out the vct full advance and told BBR you set it up full retard (or conversely) you will see p0345 codes since the mechanical timing is out of wack.

Any chance you did 1 full advance and the other full retard?

I am still prone to think that a follower or lash adjuster may not be right, causing the noise.

 

[bullitt5244]

Well for an update i pulled the timing cover off have number 1 cylinder on tdc and from what i can tell it looks like it is off. I am going to reset the timing hopefully tonight, we will see.

 

[bullitt5244]

If you locked out the vct full advance and told BBR you set it up full retard (or conversely) you will see p0345 codes since the mechanical timing is out of wack.

Any chance you did 1 full advance and the other full retard?

I am still prone to think that a follower or lash adjuster may not be right, causing the noise.

I will check that out and make sure. Thanks !

 

[bullitt5244]

Ok update time we are running great !!! Removed the timing cover reset the cam timing and off we go !!!! Just wanted to thank everybody for the help. Also would like to give BBR props for the excellent service and tech support, John, Matt, and Chris. They were very patient.

 

[94tbird]

so the timing was off down below then? Was i right?

 

[tmcolegr]

If you don't mind me asking, how did the cam get out of time? Obviously something happened during the camshaft installation process.

Only reason I ask is because I'm going to be installing cams shortly and don't want to have any timing issues.

Please advise.

 

[bullitt5244]

so the timing was off down below then? Was i right?

Correct and thank you for the help !! As far as how it got off time i used the wedge tool and it is still possible for it to slip a tooth on the lower gear with that tool. If i were doing cams i would take the timing cover off. It's an extra step but well worth it.

 

[stkjock]

glad it's all good!!! enjoy the new power and idle!

 

[*JZ*]

Glad everything worked out for you.

e-mail me over some sound clips

 

[05mustang_TT_charged]

Here is my exhaust clip with new psfracer exhaust system installed
not bad considering I took it with iPhone 3G S

 

[*JZ*]

That sounds damn good!

 

[94tbird]

fo shizzle

 

[rojizostang]

Correct and thank you for the help !! As far as how it got off time i used the wedge tool and it is still possible for it to slip a tooth on the lower gear with that tool. If i were doing cams i would take the timing cover off. It's an extra step but well worth it.

wow. i never would have believed that. somehow, obviously you got slack in the chain that allowed it to slip on the bottom....it's just hard to imagine. when i did mine, i wedged that tool to the max, and had zero problems. did you perhaps move the crank a little with the wedge tool in place? could there be a problem with the tensioners?

 

[tmcolegr]

My thoughts as well. If the tool is properly installed and the engine is not rotated I can't see how the chain could get loose on the crank sprocket.

 

[bullitt5244]

My thoughts as well. If the tool is properly installed and the engine is not rotated I can't see how the chain could get loose on the crank sprocket.

Well my guess would be when you are filling the cylinder with air it can move a little bit even with it in gear and some one holding the crank pulley.

 

[tmcolegr]

Well my guess would be when you are filling the cylinder with air it can move a little bit even with it in gear and some one holding the crank pulley.

Why would you be filling a cylinder with air while the cam phasers were not mounted to the camshaft?

 

[rojizostang]

/\/\he's changing the valve springs. now that makes sense, sort of. i think i would have changed the valve spring before removing the phaser bolts and the original cams. i think then there wouldn't be a problem.