Got A 3v With A M90? Want More Power For Free?!?

[Mustang30212]

Subbing.......

I was thinking about this exact swap when the DOB kits first came out.

RH

 

[Department Of Boost]

I did try to call and text you a few days ago,your mail box was not set up.

Jim

Texting is set up.....I HATE VM though so that is shut down.

I just sent you a text about hooking up with 908SSP at the show. I couldn't make it.

 

[fivelinkcobra]

908SSP and I met up today. Thurs would work well for me and I would like to come over sometime between 1-3.

Jim

 

[corey5988]

Bumpity.

 

[Department Of Boost]

We took a look at it. It’s not possible with a GT500 blower.

 

[Captainstr8edge]

this makes me sad.

 

[corey5988]

We took a look at it. It’s not possible with a GT500 blower.

What was the issue?

 

[skwerl]

After a couple weeks with the TVS1900 I have to say that I haven't seen the huge drop in IAT that I was expecting. I'm running about 2 more pounds of boost and my IAT seems to average about 5-8 degrees cooler than before. I think the vast majority of heat comes from the block and aluminum intake manifold. Once those big chunks of aluminum are 200 degrees, air passing through is going to get hot. This isn't an issue when ambient air temps are below 90 degrees but I live in Florida and 90+ is our air temp for 5 months per year. My IAT runs about 40-50 above ambient.

 

[Department Of Boost]

What was the issue?

The same thing that is always an issue......$$$$$$$.

We can make anything. Making it for a reasonable price is the tricky part.

 

[Department Of Boost]

I think the vast majority of heat comes from the block .

We have a solution for that. We're working on it right now.

 

[corey5988]

We have a solution for that. We're working on it right now.

Elaboration available?

 

[Department Of Boost]

Elaboration available?

Nope, top secret for now.

I can say that the solution is relatively cheap, easy to install and drops IAT’s 25-30deg though.

We are targeting GT500’s first (Gt500 guys spend more $$$), then we will do it for the 3v’s. I’m not sure if the Roush will need anything special. If it does its no big deal, it will just take a little longer to make available. Were hoping to have the “kits” ready by spring at the latest.

I’m guessing we are going to sell a shedload of them. I big HE and water pump will barely get you a 25-30deg drop in IAT’s and really does nothing for heat soak.

 

[corey5988]

Nope, top secret for now.

I can say that the solution is relatively cheap, easy to install and drops IAT’s 25-30deg though.

We are targeting GT500’s first (Gt500 guys spend more $$$), then we will do it for the 3v’s. I’m not sure if the Roush will need anything special. If it does its no big deal, it will just take a little longer to make available. Were hoping to have the “kits” ready by spring at the latest.

I’m guessing we are going to sell a shedload of them. I big HE and water pump will barely get you a 25-30deg drop in IAT’s and really does nothing for heat soak.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I would think the only other way to lower IATs would be injection, or a secondary HE setup with some sort of relay controlled valve that would switch between a primary and secondary HE setup depending on the fluid temp of each, if that makes sense. I'm in for curiousity, you've peaked my interest.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I would think the only other way to lower IATs would be injection, or a secondary HE setup with some sort of relay controlled valve that would switch between a primary and secondary HE setup depending on the fluid temp of each, if that makes sense. I'm in for curiousity, you've peaked my interest.

It’s MUCH, MUCH simpler than all that. Sometimes the best solutions are.

The idea is simple, and easy to do. That is why I’m not “advertising”. Someone will copy it (probably made in China) eventually. I’m giving myself the biggest head start I can.

 

[corey5988]

Hey, no problem man. I understand that completely. I'm just an inquisitive SOB.

 

[weather man]

It’s MUCH, MUCH simpler than all that. Sometimes the best solutions are.

The idea is simple, and easy to do. That is why I’m not “advertising”. Someone will copy it (probably made in China) eventually. I’m giving myself the biggest head start I can.

Remember the post from the good ol boy I copied, who set up a small nozzle to spray E85 upstream from the intake to cool it down? I wonder if anyone has played around with that. How much would it take, and how hard to incorparate into tune?

 

[quiksilver15]

I know some people over on PT.net have a phenolic spacer between the blower and lower manifold. Then they add nylon spacers below the intercooler to eliminate heat transfer through conduction. But we don't have as much room under the hood as the truck guys.
here is a thread:
http://www.performancetrucks.net/forums/forced-induction-159/another-moded-tvs2300-496591/

 

[crownaviation]

Remember the post from the good ol boy I copied, who set up a small nozzle to spray E85 upstream from the intake to cool it down? I wonder if anyone has played around with that. How much would it take, and how hard to incorparate into tune?

I spray a small 30 shot of nitrous thru the maf and viola. Dry system to do that is pretty cheap but does add some complexity. NO tune required if small shot that is compensated by MAF.

I would be very interested in any extra cooling. I have kicked around idea of meth but really do not need it atm. plus there ya go with more tuning and system complexity.. and work.. and expensive.. and maintenance

 

[Timmbo]

I may skip on PD blowers all together. S&H is changing my heart with a nice 1000hp + twin turbo kit with *oiless* ceramic 62mm Comp turbos coming out soon that doesn't resemble any of the turbo pile of piping mess and heat under the hood with other systems. Very impressed so far. I'm sick of heat soak and it's hard to avoid pouncing out on the street with any PD blower.

We shall see by December what new FI project awaits for me to install. Time to feed this big stroker by damn!

 

[Department Of Boost]

I may skip on PD blowers all together. S&H is changing my heart with a nice 1000hp + twin turbo kit with *oiless* ceramic 62mm Comp turbos coming out soon that doesn't resemble any of the turbo pile of piping mess and heat under the hood with other systems. Very impressed so far. I'm sick of heat soak and it's hard to avoid pouncing out on the street with any PD blower.

We shall see by December what new FI project awaits for me to install. Time to feed this big stroker by damn!

Don’t think that all PD blowers act like your M90. My 3.4L setup runs nice and cool. I’ve actually sat at light and had IAT2’s (after intercooler) lower than the IAT1’s (at MAF)!!!! It literally cools the ambient air down, not heat it up.