Mastering the art of the S197 3 link suspension (sixty foot)

[Matt D]

So many of us have tried differn't springs, shocks, lca brackets etc etc

Stick cars are night and day from the auto's when it comes down to set up's. So I say we list both.


If you have gone to the track with some good sixty foots please post them here. This should shine alot of light for new members getting into the 1320 scene.. Most of us have tried countless parts and continue to change them to get the best results. I want to save people money and time.

Basic run down on what to post for set up.

Which...
- Shocks
- Rear springs
- Lower control arms
- Upper control arm
- posi
- Pan hard bar
- Pan hard bar support brace
- Gear size
- Brand/ tire size
- Clutch or which converter at what stall?
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar

My S197 (stick car)

2011 Updated

Comp engineering pan hard support brace
Comp engineering double adjustable pan hard bar
BMR anti roll bar (this made the car launch perfectly straight)
Qa1 single adjustables
Upr upper control arm with bracket
Upr HD Race double adjustable lowers
Upr Adjustable spring perch's with Qa1 rear drag springs
Strange 8.8 spool
4.56 Richmond gears
26x10x15S Mickey thompson Et Drag
Centerforce clutch

(Leaving at 6500-7500 so far I got a 1.42 pulling the front wheels)

 

[jeostang]

1.33 60' Auto

Metco Lowers
BMR upper with bracket
D-specs front and back. Front set to full loose, Back to 5 turns out
Swaybar delete
BMR anti Roll bar
MT 28x10.5x15 12 psi
Steeda Progressive front springs (swapping to CJ fronts to match the backs)
CJ rear springs
Spool
3:73 Gear
3400 stall non locking converter

 

[white05gt]

Good thread Matt, I am very interested in spring and shock setups. I need to get rid of the rake I have on stock springs and I want to upgrade shocks too.

 

[pacettr]

1.63
3650
McLeod RST
Stock PJ Saleen suspension
Front sway bar removed
M&H 18" DR's on 18x9 FGT wheels
FGT 18x9's with BFG KDW's up front

Leaving at 4000-4500







Switching to 17" Bogart big/littles, hoping for 1.50's




Eh just caught the 15" qualification. I'll watch from the sidelines...

 

[Matt D]

Never mind just the 15" Any combo with a decent sixty foot because not everyone runs just 15" rims

 

[RedFire07GT]

07 GT Stick Car
-Stock Shocks
-Stock UCA
-Stock Clutch
-Detroit Truetrac
-FRPP 4.10
-CHE Tubular Lowers
-FRPP Springs
-BMR Adj. Pan Hard Bar
-CHE Anit-Squats
-15x8&15x4 Jegs Sport Star Cast
-MT ET Street DR 27x10.5

My best 60ft was a 1.722 leaving at 4500-5000 Spinning.

 

[matt texass]

Awesome thread. I have never cut below 1.8 (I haven't been to the track in a long time) with my auto.

 

[Matt D]

I just updated the first post. Thanks for helping out, this should help alot of people

 

[07 s197]

3650
275/60/15 mt drag radial
tru trac/4.10's
stock clutch/DS
BMR lowers/stock upper
BMR panhard/ stock brace
sway bar delete
frpp shocks/struts/springs/sway bar

5-5500 launch
1.54 60ft

 

[force recon]

05 stick car

shocks- stock
springs-stock
upper- metco adj.
lowers- metco
posi.- stock
panhard bar and brace- stock
gear- 4.10
tire- et streets bias, 13psi
clutch- stock with 77,xxx miles on it
anit-roll bar- none

pinion angle set at- -4

launching at 6000rpm
1.65 60ft

 

[TexasKyle]

5R/converter, stock
Diff/gears (3.31), stock
Struts/shocks, stock
Steeda Ultralite springs
Adj panhard bar
BMR LCA's
M&H Racemaster DR's (275/45/18)
1.737 60ft

 

[TonyN]

Good thread! I think LCA bracket usage (none or which level & brand) and pinion angle should be added to the list, if known of course.

 

[1fastpony]

2006-2009
-D-Specs; -4 front; -4 rear.
-CHE Adj- UCA
-Stock Clutch and Center Force DFC
-SpyderShaft
-FRPP 4.10
-Steeda 8120 LCA’s
-Steeda UL Springs
-CHE Adj. Pan Hard Bar
-CHE Anit-Squats
-Stock 18’ Fanblades 63 lbs. each with tire.
-BFG DR’S 265/35/18 @ 21 psi
Pinion angle -4*.

High 1.6 – low 1.7 60’ @ ~5800rpm to 6200rpm.


-New 2010 Setup-
-D-Specs; -3.5 front; -3 rear.
-CHE Adj- UCA
-CenterForce DFC…Toasted. New Spec 2 installed.
-SpyderShaft
-FRPP 4.10
-Steeda 8120 LCA’s
-Steeda UL Springs
-CHE Adj. Pan Hard Bar
-CHE Anit-Squats
-15x8 & 15x4 Race Stars
-MT ET Street DR 275/50/15 @ 18psi

Solid 1.6 60 ‘ @ ~ 6200rpm.

Pinion angle ~2*

 

[BlownAway05]

tr-3650
- Shocks Tokico D-spec F-6.5 R-4
- Rear springs Steeda Ultralite Lowering
- Lower control arms BMR adj.
- Upper control arm Stock
- posi Stock
- Pan hard bar Spohn adj
- Pan hard bar support brace BMR
- Gear size 3.55
- Brand/ tire size 26x11.5x17 MT ET Street Bias - 14 psi
- Clutch or which converter at what stall? Competition Clutch 1620 Stage 5
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar Steeda Rear Sway Bar
- Front Sway bar Stock

@ around 3000-3300 rpm
Best 60' 1.58
Average mid 1.6x to low 1.7x

 

[Matt D]

^ That is very impressive et's

 

[chad05gt]

- Shocks -dspecs
- Rear springs CJ
- Lower control arms Steeda unadj
- Upper control arm Steeda race adj
- posi tru trac
- Pan hard bar Steeda
- Pan hard bar support brace Steeda
- Gear size 4.56
- Brand/ tire size 27" ET Street 12ish psi
- Clutch or which converter at what stall? Powergrip HD pres plate, custom clutch, RAM steel flywheel, oem tob
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar Steeda rear sway w/ billet end links


-3 pinion angle
1.66 best, still think somethings 'off'.

 

[Matt D]

Chad are you spinning? out of the hole?

 

[rojizostang]

1.67 60' time

Shocks -dspecs 7.5 turns in the front, 5 in the back
- Rear springs pro kit
-front springs pro kit
- Lower control arms Steeda street adjustable
- Upper control arm j&m non adjustable
- posi tru trac
- Pan hard bar j&m
- Pan hard bar support brace stock
- Gear size 4.56
- Brand/ tire size 26x11.5x17 @ 14psi
- Clutch or which converter at what stall? stock clutch
- Anti roll bar or which rear sway bar none
-front sway bar none
-custom 17" skinnies
-2 step launch at 4300rpm

 

[fin1]

1.36

QA1 rear shocks
Steeda front/rear springs
D-Spec front struts
CHE axle brace
CHE panhard bar
CHE uppers & lower arms
CHE anti-squat brackets
Detroit locker
4.10's
MT slicks

 

[force recon]

Ordering lakewood rear shocks and eibach drag springs, would a better panhard bar and brace help?

Thanks Rod