Typical shop cost to forge motor?

[Mach3011]

I have been reading up quite a bit on building the motor in my '14 gt. I have been looking at this kit.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...assemblies-for-2011-2014-Mustang-Gt-5-0-TiVCT

My question to start is, what kind of install time/cost are you looking at?

Would it make more sense to install at the same time as a blower as some of the tear down would already be completed?

 

[Brezick]

You wont find many MMR fans here.

Are you doing the work yourself? With the R&R and any machine work, you might still be better off buying an Aluminator and selling your stock motor to recover some cost.

 

[Mach3011]

Why is that?

I will be having a shop do it, not sure I trust myself enough. Do you know the typical sale price of the motor? I suppose you sell it on ebay?

 

[TW1NTRB0]

If you're not aiming at big power then an Aluminator is a great option since you can sell your stock motor to recoup some cash like stated above or keep it for a spare. An Aluminator can be done at home in the driveway if needed. I would not buy an MMR motor and I would shy away from any company that has that much negative attached to their name, it's just not worth the risk. I would also look local as you could probably find a similar deal from a local builder with Coyote experience.

 

[Mach3011]

If you're not aiming at big power then an Aluminator is a great option since you can sell your stock motor to recoup some cash like stated above or keep it for a spare. An Aluminator can be done at home in the driveway if needed. I would not buy an MMR motor and I would shy away from any company that has that much negative attached to their name, it's just not worth the risk. I would also look local as you could probably find a similar deal from a local builder with Coyote experience.

Noted, this is great info. Did not know MMR had such a bad rep. I am still in the initial phases of all the research.

Do you know what the typical range would be for forging if I found a local shop? I have emailed a few but waiting on responses.

Does anyone know the install cost of an Aluminator? I am not sure that's a job I would tackle myself.

Just trying to get some cost mapping laid out and can't seem to find typical ranges anywhere.

 

[stkjock]

location has a huge part in labor costs.....

R&R - ~ 1200-1800 depending on location.


also search the site, this topic has been covered many times and don't post questions like this in tech. Thank you.


also Fuck MMR!

 

[Mach3011]

location has a huge part in labor costs.....

R&R - ~ 1200-1800 depending on location.


also search the site, this topic has been covered many times and don't post questions like this in tech. Thank you.


also Fuck MMR!

Noted, must have used poor search terms I'll try again.

Also, why all the hate on MMR? (I know nothing about them.)

 

[06silverbullet]

search mmr on this forum and you'll see a long list of pissed off ex customers. i never have nor never will do anything with mmr due to the problems they have.

 

[Mach3011]

Is this the correct Aluminator being referenced above?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-aluminator-engine-sc-1112gt.html

Seems about a 16-20 hour shop install from posts I could find?

 

[tnsaleen]

As stated, location will play a big part in labor costs. I am in middle TN and the shop that is doing all the machine work for my short block is about $750. That's balanced, bearings clearanced, machining, magnafluxing, the whole thing.

My builder quoted me $500 to assemble the short block. That's rechecking the bearings, file fit the rings, and so on. So right now, I am at $1250 for labor and machine work on the shortblock. Add the fasteners, rods, pistons, block, crank, bearings and such and I am around $3100. I did upgrade the wrist pins as well, found a used 03-04 cobra crank, and a low mile NVH block.

 

[Mach3011]

Okay great information thanks!

 

[mach828]

That rotating assembly doesn't even have MMR parts. They are ARP, Manley, and Ford.

Most of the MMR issues are relating to their labor (engine assembly) or their own parts.

 

[Mach3011]

That rotating assembly doesn't even have MMR parts. They are ARP, Manley, and Ford.

Most of the MMR issues are relating to their labor (engine assembly) or their own parts.

So it would make more sense to just get parts straight from Manley then as I will have it all installed and done locally. Any comment on Livernois?

 

[retfr8flyr]

Get this shortblock and sell you stock one. Less downtime for the build and you can just swap you heads and other parts to this shortblock. http://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-rac...c-n-a-aluminator-11-0-1-mustang/p/M6009A50NA/

 

[Mach3011]

Get this shortblock and sell you stock one. Less downtime for the build and you can just swap you heads and other parts to this shortblock. http://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-rac...c-n-a-aluminator-11-0-1-mustang/p/M6009A50NA/

Is that more time/cost effective than this? http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-aluminator-engine-sc-1112gt.html

 

[stkjock]

Is that more time/cost effective than this? http://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-aluminator-engine-sc-1112gt.html

same motor - different applications

if you read the descriptions:

1) N/A
2) Supercharged

 

[Brezick]

Get this shortblock and sell you stock one. Less downtime for the build and you can just swap you heads and other parts to this shortblock. http://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-rac...c-n-a-aluminator-11-0-1-mustang/p/M6009A50NA/

For 2k more you can get the fully assembled motor from Tasca.

 

[Mach3011]

same motor - different applications

if you read the descriptions:

1) N/A
2) Supercharged

I read that, I mean more in the sense of pre-assembled versus not.

 

[stkjock]

I read that, I mean more in the sense of pre-assembled versus not.

I see, so short block vs. long block.

Well that will depend on your labor costs. the long block install will be less time than a short block swap.

 

[D98GT]

Where do you live?

I built a pretty solid lower end on my car for much less than what most companies are going to charge you. Blake Holcomb hooked it up