For what its worth, my DIY

[FalconGTHO]

On paint care I did for the GrabberOrange board.

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[DKS]

Good video

 

[Melvin's Fly]

Great Video. Good job guys.

I also use the Meguiar's 205 like DKS, along with a Porter Cable 7424XP DA polisher. My question for DKS is, do you do everything in the same order as Falcon - Polish, NXT, Wax? I also have some 105 that I OCCASIONALLY use.

 

[DKS]

Great Video. Good job guys.

I also use the Meguiar's 205 like DKS, along with a Porter Cable 7424XP DA polisher. My question for DKS is, do you do everything in the same order as Falcon - Polish, NXT, Wax? I also have some 105 that I OCCASIONALLY use.

Yep, you always want to polish, seal, then wax.

You use a polish first to get rid of any imperfection in the paint. Of course the Show Car glaze applied by hand is not really going to do that, but the M205 will since it's abrasive, so to speak.

Sealant is next if you are going to use it since it needs to bond with the paint. Then the wax goes on last on top of the sealant.

Polishing with a buffer will eat away wax or sealant so you for sure have to do it first before sealing and/or wax.

 

[FalconGTHO]

Good video

Great Video. Good job guys.
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Thanks

Yep, you always want to polish, seal, then wax.

You use a polish first to get rid of any imperfection in the paint. Of course the Show Car glaze applied by hand is not really going to do that, but the M205 will since it's abrasive, so to speak.

Sealant is next if you are going to use it since it needs to bond with the paint. Then the wax goes on last on top of the sealant.

Polishing with a buffer will eat away wax or sealant so you for sure have to do it first before sealing and/or wax.

Going further, polish is for color depth and gloss, which isnt the same as shine.

Wax is a sacrificial layer to the elements.

 

[DKS]

I think the biggest issue with car care is people not getting the difference between "polishing" a car and "waxing" or "sealing" a car.

Even though with the #7 it's a non abraisive polish that is made to be hand applied so the application method you guys used was fine, a lot of people think they can get a polish (like M205) and "apply" it by hand like you guys did and then wonder why they still have swirls or scratches on their black cars, lol They don't get that the heat and friction HAVE to be in the equation as well to achieve results.

And don't even get me started on the crap buffers they sell at Walmart and Autozone, lol

#7 is really useless unless the car is already in top condition to start with, it's not going to fix swirls, etc. like polishing with a good DA and an abrasive polish. There is no way that simply rubbing it on and wiping it off can actually remove swirls and scratching.

 

[Airborne2000]

I think the biggest issue with car care is people not getting the difference between "polishing" a car and "waxing" or "sealing" a car.

Even though with the #7 it's a non abraisive polish that is made to be hand applied so the application method you guys used was fine, a lot of people think they can get a polish (like M205) and "apply" it by hand like you guys did and then wonder why they still have swirls or scratches on their black cars, lol They don't get that the heat and friction HAVE to be in the equation as well to achieve results.

And don't even get me started on the crap buffers they sell at Walmart and Autozone, lol

#7 is really useless unless the car is already in top condition to start with, it's not going to fix swirls, etc. like polishing with a good DA and an abrasive polish. There is no way that simply rubbing it on and wiping it off can actually remove swirls and scratching.

So when would be the right time in the process to use a swirl remover?

I have an 05 that stays really clean, but I have never clay bared or anything else to it. I just wash the car once a week, im sure it could be better but it stays really nice. I have swirls though and thats the onlything i really see that bothers me. If I do the same stuff as this video then when can add swirl remover?

Great video by the way.

 

[DKS]

So when would be the right time in the process to use a swirl remover?

I have an 05 that stays really clean, but I have never clay bared or anything else to it. I just wash the car once a week, im sure it could be better but it stays really nice. I have swirls though and thats the onlything i really see that bothers me. If I do the same stuff as this video then when can add swirl remover?

Great video by the way.

Ok, a swirl remover is just a polish that is more aggressive than a finishing polish like M205 but less aggressive than something like Ultimate Compound. If you use a swirl remover you would use it after the clay bar and wash. Then you can use a finishing polish like M205 or the #7 Glaze if you want to, then the sealant and/or wax.

Any polishing is done after the strip down wash, clay bar, and re-wash and before any sealants or wax are used.

And any time you use multiple polishes you start with the most aggressive first and work down to finer polishes, just like you would do with sandpaper on wood. Start coarse and finish fine.

Using something like M105 which is extremely aggressive you HAVE to use M205 or some other fine finishing polish to make the finish smooth and mirror like again. With something like swirl remover, you really don't need to use another polish after it since it's a diminishing polish that actually smooth itself out as it breaks down. But some still prefer to use a finishing polish after a swirl remover. (not all swirl removers are diminishing, but Meguire's is one that is)

Just a note, if you do use a coarse polish first like the M105, the application of the #7 by hand like in the video will not do much if anything to bring the paint back to a mirror finish. You need to use a polish that is applied by a buffer and has some abrasive properties to it like M205, etc.

You have to physically smooth out the roughness of the paint mechanically with heat, friction, and polish.


I'm going to copy this question and response to the sticky, as well.

 

[Airborne2000]

thanks man, im always pretty confused on all of this, this all is giving me a much better understanding.

 

[DKS]

Sometimes it can get confusing because of the terminology used. Some companies interchange terms for products that are not correct. Like calling NXT 2.0 wax when it's a sealant. Lot's of conflicting ideas out there when it comes to Glazes and polishes, too.

 

[DDTCM]

Awesome video guys! BTW.......you said,"Petes rubbin one out" LOL.

 

[FalconGTHO]

Awesome video guys! BTW.......you said,"Petes rubbin one out" LOL.

Lol yep, indeed I did. On purpose too.

 

[Ky S197]

Great job on the video, answered a lot of my questions.

 

[FalconGTHO]

Great job on the video, answered a lot of my questions.

Cool. Thanks.

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

I would have torn the tag off that buffing pad your buddy was using to put on the #7 polish. Those can put some nice little scratches on your clear coat. Nothing a buffer couldn't get out but those tags get ripped off and tossed in the trash at my house.

LOL. Nice video!

 

[mpf]

a lot of people think they can get a polish (like M205) and "apply" it by hand like you guys did and then wonder why they still have swirls or scratches on their black cars, lol They don't get that the heat and friction HAVE to be in the equation as well to achieve results.

Good to know, as i was going to do this (by hand) on the '11, simply because the paint does not really need 'correction'.
The PC worked great on the old ranger, but I ended up using megs 'ultimate compound', as 205 was too fine to cut it's 18 yo paint.

 

[DKS]

Good to know, as i was going to do this (by hand) on the '11, simply because the paint does not really need 'correction'.
The PC worked great on the old ranger, but I ended up using megs 'ultimate compound', as 205 was too fine to cut it's 18 yo paint.

Yeah, m205 is for very fine polishing. I don't need anything more on my car, but that's just because of the condition I keep my paint in.

Speaking of. . . . It's getting about that time again. A few too many MF quick details while I've been out is starting to show. After my trip to MAP in Richmond this weekend for my gears, it's full detail time again.

 

[FalconGTHO]

I would have torn the tag off that buffing pad your buddy was using to put on the #7 polish. Those can put some nice little scratches on your clear coat. Nothing a buffer couldn't get out but those tags get ripped off and tossed in the trash at my house.

LOL. Nice video!

I know. I thought about it. I kept it folded back on the one I was using. On mine I cut them off with scissors. But then the ones Ive bought didnt have tags anyway. And thanks.

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

I know. I thought about it. I kept it folded back on the one I was using. On mine I cut them off with scissors. But then the ones Ive bought didnt have tags anyway. And thanks.

Your video did encourage me to go get some Mequiars #7 Glaze and NXT.

That #7 Glaze IS THE BOMB!!!!! I did the 3 step process like in your video, but from now on I'm just gonna use the #7 Glaze and be done. It looked soaking wet with that stuff and since I don't drive the car, no need for 50 coats of wax like I do. LOL

 

[waketek516]

Good video! I usually try to do this every 3 months or so. And now that I'm typing that, I'm realizing that I'm overdue for it!