MSD 2-Step install help

RocketcarX

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I can't drive like that on the street.
With 540RWHP it's difficult to keep it on WOT.
It's useless as far as a ET improving device in the 3650 equipped cars and I've seen it blow mufflers out on a turbo car.
Also was a joke, hence my liking your previous post
 

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I used the CC disengage switch. When I tried using the clutch safety switch it didn't work. I remember I had a hell of a time finding any info online. It seemed like different years had different color wires. If you decide not to use a reed switch let me know and I can find out what color it was (been a while since I installed it).

If I remember right the 2-step only works when the switch closes and the engine RPM is at least 1/3 of the set value. I never had a problem of it turning on by accident.
 

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It's useless as far as a ET improving device in the 3650 equipped cars and I've seen it blow mufflers out on a turbo car.
Also was a joke, hence my liking your previous post

I totally disagree. When I had a turbo it let me build boost at the line and helped my response time.

If you do not have a turbo, but bracket race a lot, 2 steps will give the ability to cut great lights. Will not make your ET better.

I don't know how you wouldn't have a switch on it. It was really easy to do and I attached it to where the bar from the clutch pedal swang in. It was a tiny micro switch with 3m double sided sticky tape. In 9 years it came off one time.

Make sure you have no cats...
 

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I used the CC disengage switch. When I tried using the clutch safety switch it didn't work. I remember I had a hell of a time finding any info online. It seemed like different years had different color wires. If you decide not to use a reed switch let me know and I can find out what color it was (been a while since I installed it).

If I remember right the 2-step only works when the switch closes and the engine RPM is at least 1/3 of the set value. I never had a problem of it turning on by accident.

You can get a switch and that has "normally open" or "normally closed" so it can either be on all the time or only on when switched. That's what I did.
 

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You can get a switch and that has "normally open" or "normally closed" so it can either be on all the time or only on when switched. That's what I did.

That’s what I plan on doing. Going to use a speed of sound center console plate mount with Billet Automotive Buttons.


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I totally disagree. When I had a turbo it let me build boost at the line and helped my response time.

If you do not have a turbo, but bracket race a lot, 2 steps will give the ability to cut great lights. Will not make your ET better.

I don't know how you wouldn't have a switch on it. It was really easy to do and I attached it to where the bar from the clutch pedal swang in. It was a tiny micro switch with 3m double sided sticky tape. In 9 years it came off one time.

Make sure you have no cats...
I meant the "no lift shift" feature is useless. A 2 step is totally worth the investment
 

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I used the CC disengage switch. When I tried using the clutch safety switch it didn't work. I remember I had a hell of a time finding any info online. It seemed like different years had different color wires. If you decide not to use a reed switch let me know and I can find out what color it was (been a while since I installed it).

If I remember right the 2-step only works when the switch closes and the engine RPM is at least 1/3 of the set value. I never had a problem of it turning on by accident.
Yeah I would want to install without at switch first. Let me know when you get a chance to look under your car.


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I wired it to the switch at the top of the clutch pedal assembly. There are two wires, one black and one white. I connected the white wire to the white/blue coming from the 2-step.

Any questions let me know.
 

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I wired it to the switch at the top of the clutch pedal assembly. There are two wires, one black and one white. I connected the white wire to the white/blue coming from the 2-step.

Any questions let me know.

That’s perfect.


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I beg to differ about the no-lift being useless with a 3650. I missed a gear from time to time before the WOT box when power shifting and can't remember the last time I blew a run to a shift since installing it. The shifter just goes into gear much easier with it.
I can build 5 lbs of boost at the line and I can hold my foot to the floor once the car has hooked. It is a great driving aid at the track and is pretty much invisible otherwise.

I did decrease the ignition cut time as my car was a fireball machine with the default settings. I also have a straight through style muffler so no worries about blowing them open.

If you need help figuring out which wire to tap for the MSD 2 step, you can probably find the answer in the write ups available for the WOT box, they tell you the specific pin placement on the ECU harness.
 

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I checked N2MB WOT Install instructions and they don't use the clutch switch at the pedals. All their connections are on the SBJ and fuse box in the engine bay.

I will try what 06redgt said and tap the white wire.
 

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you can hook it to either wire depending if you want + or -. Just looked at my 07, I hooked mine to the blue/yellow wire on lower clutch switch to the solid blue wire coming off the msd. if you dont have your pedal mashed as hard to the floor as you can , it wont engage and the moment you slighly deviate height, it lets go of 2step function just an FYI.
 

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Couldn't get it to work, there are two switches connected to the clutch pedal. Which connector is the correct one?


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I tried connecting the blue/white first then tried the blue after on both the top connector and bottom connector.

The top connector has a black and a white wire, I tapped on the white.

The bottom has a black wire and a yellow/green looking wire and again I tried to connect the wires from the 2-step (1 at a time) and nothing happened.

It's the msd 2-step that's just plug and play to our coil plugs.


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I did the white/blue on the white wire on the top connector...

I remember the install instructions had a point where you connect the 2-step but leave the coils disconnected and turn the key on only. If the lights didn't come on the connectors on the main harness had to be flipped. I had to flip the connectors from what they initially instructed to get it to work for me. Double check that.
 

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Ok I'll check that, the led does light up though


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