Poor Spanky!! The story of my 2011 GT

[VTXFrank]

Yup FrankyPoo!

I should have been more specific in my first post about it.

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

OP??? Hello???? Are you out there???

Has anybody seen hide nor hair of the ORIGINAL POSTER? I think more input is required for this thread to continue otherwise you guys are rearranging deck chairs on the SS Titanic. Sheesh.

 

[mobeydick]

There is a way to go about voicing your opinion that DOES NOT require YOU getting pissed off over it. You think you're some kind of fucking Internet Hero? An Internet White Knight? Come on down off that high horse of yours and STOP being offended by other people's ignorance and/or perceived notions about things. An ADULT can, and will, discuss these types of matters without being a fucking dick like you've been.

I think, and this is just me, it's time for you to go on back to those other forums. No one here enjoys it when some prick gives our Mods a hard time.

First post in this Thread page 2. “The Techs at the Dealership can't see directly if it HAD a tune installed unless it is still installed. Ford Corp. Headquarters can.

I'm sorry for your luck, But don't ask everyone else to pay for your fun!”
Being polite
Second Post page 2 “NO, You have to prove (The Part/Modifaction) it did not cause the failure. If you do you can get tripple damages. But in this case it's going to cost the OP 10xs more then replacing the Engine!”

Being Polite

3rd “He said over on SVTP

"My tuner has been in the game for a looong time and his "tune" didn't break the car."

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...y-2011-gt.html”

Being polite

4th “The OP wants Ford to fix the Problem he created. Ford doesn’t have to prove crap. All they have to do is void the warranty, if that is unacceptable to the owner then it’s up to the owner to prove Ford Wrong! Even if the vehicle is/was totally stock that would be the case. It’s not the case so the OP should man-up and either junk the car or fix it himself!

The New 5.0 is a great engine platform for mustangs. The simple facts are getting 1.75hppci in any N/A motor is risk taking unless you’ve built it to do so! The stock internals are the best they can be for mass production! The 5.0 is at 75% of max performance (Stock internals) coming from the factory.

It’s 302 cubic inches! That is a huge limiting factor. It’s only capable of so much with so little!!”

Being polite

Then I get the directed at me!

Bmr4life: “Let this same thing happen to you and I bet you'd be bitching also”

The Mod started it with me for telling the Truth!

 

[stkjock]

I have so you think stopping people from telling the Truth and Reality of the situation is the right thing to do. That's good to know! That makes me respect you a lot more!

once again you missed the point. now you refuse to abide by a staff request. Have a nice time with your new color.

 

[UltraKla$$ic]

Oh well, you tried Dave.

 

[bullitt boy]

Damn,bitch slapped by the pink stick .

 

[Rob72]

What's the difference between a mail order and custom tune?

 

[reefblue93]

I have so you think stopping people from telling the Truth and Reality of the situation is the right thing to do. That's good to know! That makes me respect you a lot more!

I don't know if you're drunk, high or both but you're all over the place man. I agree with your point of view in that the OP took a risk and rolled snake eyes but to start popping off to other members and then to thumb your nose at.one of the Moderators...

Chill out man, there are enough knowledgeable folks on this site to figure out the new Coyote isn't trash just because a couple of people fucked up and had a bad experience. If Ford needs a spokesman on the car forums, I'm sure you'll be a top candidate. For the time being, wear your new title with pride cause you earned it LOL

 

[stkjock]

What's the difference between a mail order and custom tune?

nothing inherently, custom = designed for the mods your car has.

the difference is custom vs. dyno tuned. Dyno is the best, most costly, but IMO with a highly modded car worth it.

bolt on car a custom mail order tune is fine 97% of the time from the proven tuning shops.

 

[reefblue93]

What's the difference between a mail order and custom tune?

A custom tune costs more and is normally performed on a dyno. I may be wrong but I believe that's one discernable difference.

 

[Rob72]

I seen a few post custom and mail order as if there was a difference.

 

[Mach1Marauder]

I seen a few post custom and mail order as if there was a difference.

By people that don't use proper terminology.

Words mean things.

 

[Rob72]

Can you get a dyno tune and have it stored on your SCT along with your stock program incase you decide to turn the car back to stock in the future?

 

[Bmr4life]

Can you get a dyno tune and have it stored on your SCT along with your stock program incase you decide to turn the car back to stock in the future?

Yes. The stock program is always in the unit.

 

[whoapony]

Gotta use some common sense in this folks. The MMWA doesn't provide protection, and was never meant to provide protection, for car enthusiasts who change so many variables about how their engine performs. It was meant to protect people from getting FORCED into buying OEM parts for their cars. As long as after market parts meet or exceed OEM specs, then they won't have an issue being used. This doesn't apply to tunes.

VTXFrank, lets put the MMA aside. What about Fords Warranty statement that says it will not cover damages CAUSED by programs. It doesn't say Won't cover any damages if you HAVE a program. I know words mean things and people are getting tied up in interpritation. Yes, some guys are right, the burden of proof may come down on th OP, its unfortunate. I think its shady either way for Ford to just stop dead in thier tracks like that, of course thats just my opinion.

 

[302]

Boss 302 pistons+engine build is cheaper than lawyer fees + months tied up in court with a billion dollar corporation that pays lawyers millions of dollars to win in court.

/thread

 

[Rob72]

I think any honest lawyer(oxymoron) is going to tell you that this case has a lot of grey to it. Give me 10k with a 50/50 shot or spend 8k and have your car back next month. The best hope here is that some stock engines start to code P0308. That may not happen because generally these people don't push their engine to their limits.

 

[VTXFrank]

VTXFrank, lets put the MMA aside. What about Fords Warranty statement that says it will not cover damages CAUSED by programs. It doesn't say Won't cover any damages if you HAVE a program. I know words mean things and people are getting tied up in interpritation. Yes, some guys are right, the burden of proof may come down on th OP, its unfortunate. I think its shady either way for Ford to just stop dead in thier tracks like that, of course thats just my opinion.

Same thing man. Ford is saying if you get a fucked up tune that grenades your motor, you are SOL. But there again, you have to call to see their cards I would imagine.

I agree to a point that it's shitty of Ford to be so ready to void a warranty. However, if it were MY business and I was losing money in a tough economy from people modifying their cars, I'd probably get to a point of voiding a lot of warranties myself.

If my engine pops due to a tune, I'm going straight to the tuner, not Ford. It's called integrity and your willingness to pay to play shouldn't compromise it. Nothing should ever compromise your integrity, as you well know from your service time and how adamant the Army is about integrity.

Basically, all Ford is saying in that statement is that if your engine pops due to a design flaw or material failure on their part, they will stand behind their product. If it's due to your installing a tune that rips up your shit, then pack sand. That's the way it should be too.

 

[Mikes_BLK_GT]

nothing inherently, custom = designed for the mods your car has.

the difference is custom vs. dyno tuned. Dyno is the best, most costly, but IMO with a highly modded car worth it.

bolt on car a custom mail order tune is fine 97% of the time from the proven tuning shops.

Exactly ..........a lot of people dont like to call an email tune custom for some reason. Most of the time its the same guys who preach death and disaster if you dont run a dyno tune

 

[gil_t2]

Since the OP will not respond I think I may know why we don't know whats wrong with the motor. There was a similar problem at the local dealership (not a#8 problem) a possible mod problem. Any way They would not disassemble the engine unless the owner agreed to pay for the disassembly if Ford would not warranty it.