Bad Sellers

[tpsmak]

You never said that there was major damage first off. You said you think there may be some minor scratching. Never once told me you cut the bar off with a saw. This is my first experience with rollbars so how am i suppose to know that if the shoulder bar is removable that it makes it not certified. I think that info should have been stated, and the guys at RPM agreed with me about that. I wonder why you didnt send me pics of that cut off bar if you supposedly told me there was major damage?

I did tell you the passenger bar may have major damage and may need to be replaced and you were ok with that.

I understand your inexperience with rollbars but asking me to foot the bill to get it to exactly how you want it AFTER I sent you pictures and sent it out is not right. We have alot of customers whom we install detachable harness bars for road racing. You never told us what your use was... I'm not trying to be a jerk but how can I be held responsible for what you are using an item for when you didn't tell me? You told me you wanted to buy it and I said ok... is it my responsibility to ask you what you are doing with the rollcage?

I'm willing to help you out but it needs to be within reason...

 

[blackmustang12]

I did tell you the passenger bar may have major damage and may need to be replaced and you were ok with that.

I understand your inexperience with rollbars but asking me to foot the bill to get it to exactly how you want it AFTER I sent you pictures and sent it out is not right. We have alot of customers whom we install detachable harness bars for road racing. You never told us what your use was... I'm not trying to be a jerk but how can I be held responsible for what you are using an item for when you didn't tell me? You told me you wanted to buy it and I said ok... is it my responsibility to ask you what you are doing with the rollcage?

I'm willing to help you out but it needs to be within reason...

Once again, I NEVER asked you to foot the bill. I said i could send the cage back for a refund, OR you could split me on getting it fixed. I then said it would probably be easier to just send it back to you for a refund because i was pretty sure you didnt want to spend any money to help me get it fixed. So lets just end this situation with giving me a refund and ill send the cage back. How about that? Its that easy

 

[19COBRA93]

FWIW, I bought a bunch of parts from Mike (TPS) off that wrecked Shelby and they were all as described. I had no issues at all with the whole transaction.

 

[tpsmak]

Since you are now agreeing to take the cage back, refund my money and ill ship it back to you. This was what i insisted in the first place. Also, i never asked you to pay all the expenses to have the cage fixed. I said i could either send the cage back to you for a full refund or you could half me on the expenses to have it fixed.

If you want to send it back that is fine.. you will not be refunded the shipping costs to you and you will have to send it back to me at your costs plus you will have to pay a restocking fee for the labor and materials used to pack the rollcage. I asked you to give me till tomorrow to have a solution and next thing I know you file a Paypal dispute. You texted me after I was away from work at my son's baseball practice and I told you I would get back to you tomorrow which wasn't good enough for you

 

[tpsmak]

FWIW, I bought a bunch of parts from Mike (TPS) off that wrecked Shelby and they were all as described. I had no issues at all with the whole transaction.

Thanks, everything is pretty much as described for him also but he didn't understand what he was buying and wants me to fix the problem for him. He has admitted he didn't know what he was buying as far as a roll bar goes.

 

[blackmustang12]

If you want to send it back that is fine.. you will not be refunded the shipping costs to you and you will have to send it back to me at your costs plus you will have to pay a restocking fee for the labor and materials used to pack the rollcage. I asked you to give me till tomorrow to have a solution and next thing I know you file a Paypal dispute. You texted me after I was away from work at my son's baseball practice and I told you I would get back to you tomorrow which wasn't good enough for you

Yeah you are really willing to help me out within reason arent you? Me pay a restocking fee? are you fucking serious? lol I told you i was done waiting when you said wait til tomorrow. You have given me a runaround all day long. I said there were two options:i send the cage back or you split me on getting it fixed. Then you say,"I sent you pics so you knew what you were getting". Thats pretty much telling me that you arent helping me at all so i filed the claim.

 

[slowlyrolling]

If you want to send it back that is fine.. you will not be refunded the shipping costs to you and you will have to send it back to me at your costs plus you will have to pay a restocking fee for the labor and materials used to pack the rollcage. I asked you to give me till tomorrow to have a solution and next thing I know you file a Paypal dispute. You texted me after I was away from work at my son's baseball practice and I told you I would get back to you tomorrow which wasn't good enough for you

"I did tell you the passenger bar may have major damage and may need to be replaced and you were ok with that."

Restocking fee and labor is a real bullshit move there buddy. "may" have major damage? You should have given a detailed explanation of the damage plus pictures. Especiially for not saying it was cut off of with a saw...siding with buyer on this one.

 

[blackmustang12]

Thanks, everything is pretty much as described for him also but he didn't understand what he was buying and wants me to fix the problem for him. He has admitted he didn't know what he was buying as far as a roll bar goes.

You never described anything about the cage been hacked up with a saw making that piece useless. I agree that i was not aware that the shoulder bar needed to be welded in to make it certified but any person with any sense would make that be known. In the pics you posted in the thread, that bar was attached. So why didnt i receive it?

 

[AbdullaGT500]

plus you will have to pay a restocking fee for the labor and materials used to pack the rollcage.

LOL. That must be a joke.

 

[tpsmak]

You never described anything about the cage been hacked up with a saw making that piece useless.

I told you the driver side bar may be damaged and need replacing... how is that making the whole piece useless? All that is is the mounting plate to hold the passenger bar... it has NOTHING to do with the main roll cage.

The main problem is you didn't do enough research on what type of roll cage you needed for your application. Like I said... I will help you but within reason...

 

[blackmustang12]

I told you the driver side bar may be damaged and need replacing... how is that making the whole piece useless? All that is is the mounting plate to hold the passenger bar... it has NOTHING to do with the main roll cage.

The main problem is you didn't do enough research on what type of roll cage you needed for your application. Like I said... I will help you but within reason...

Well explain to me what kind of help you are willing to do because with all this restocking fee bullshit, it looks like you are trying to stick it to me good. And the main problem is you never mentioned that this cage is not certified. RPM is willing to let me use their company to ship it back so it will be cheaper. They told me its around $200 so is $100 on your end within reason?

 

[tpsmak]

"I did tell you the passenger bar may have major damage and may need to be replaced and you were ok with that."

Restocking fee and labor is a real bullshit move there buddy. "may" have major damage? You should have given a detailed explanation of the damage plus pictures. Especiially for not saying it was cut off of with a saw...siding with buyer on this one.

His main issue is the roll cage is NOT NHRA legal because of the detachable bar for the harness belt. Only way it can be fixed is it needs to be sent back to RPM and have it welded in and Hydro dipped.

The passenger bar and foot mount was damaged when the car was wrecked.

Well explain to me what kind of help you are willing to do because with all this restocking fee bullshit, it looks like you are trying to stick it to me good. And the main problem is you never mentioned that this cage is not certified.

You can call me tomorrow and we will work it out as I stated to you earlier in the day.

We install many roll cages with detachable harness bars for street and road racing applications... NOT "1" time did you ever ask me about is this suitable for drag racing even after you received the photos...

I'm honestly not trying to stick it to you but at the same time you asking me to foot most of the upgrade is not fair since I sent you pictures of exactly what I was sending you.. except the cut foot

Well explain to me what kind of help you are willing to do because with all this restocking fee bullshit, it looks like you are trying to stick it to me good. And the main problem is you never mentioned that this cage is not certified. RPM is willing to let me use their company to ship it back so it will be cheaper. They told me its around $200 so is $100 on your end within reason?

Sure what are you asking for exactly? $100?

 

[blackmustang12]

You can call me tomorrow and we will work it out as I stated to you earlier in the day.

We install many roll cages with detachable harness bars for street and road racing applications... NOT "1" time did you ever ask me about is this suitable for drag racing even after you received the photos...

I'm honestly not trying to stick it to you but at the same time you asking me to foot most of the upgrade is not fair since I sent you pictures of exactly what I was sending you.. except the cut foot

I will call you tomorrow but i dont understand why you keep say we will work it out. All im asking for is a refund and i will send the cage back to you. And PLEASE quit saying Im trying to get you to foot the bill to have it fixed. Ive stated a million times that it would be a 50/50 split if you "wanted" to do that. If not, then i would send the cage back.

Sure what are you asking for exactly? $100?

IF you are willing to split me on shipping it back, then yes, $100 plus my refund on the cage

 

[tpsmak]

IF you are willing to split me on shipping it back, then yes, $100 plus my refund on the cage

Call me tomorrow...

 

[blackmustang12]

Call me tomorrow...

will do

 

[skwerl]

I can't stand fucking assholes that get in the middle of a transaction dispute and then throw up the "restocking charges and labor charges for packing". That's pretty much a "FUCK YOU" to the buyer.

 

[JEWC_Motorsports]

Well I hope this gets resolved.

 

[Mach2burnout]

Let me get this right...

Buyer pays for product and shipping on original purchase.

Buyer receives, not happy with product.
Asks for refund or other repair to item. Reasonable compromise!

Seller says sorry can't help ya.

Buyer post in bad seller thread-files claim with PayPal.

Seller offers to take back but buyer will again have to foot the bill for shipping.

Buyer cries foul again ask for compromise on sellers part.

Seller adds restocking fee as well as shipping then adds insult to injury by stating that original shipping could not be refunded.

Seller puts buyer off until tomorrow...

Is this about right?

Mike, IMO you need to step up, suck it up and either pay the reasonable 100 buck split the buyer ask for to have repaired or shipping cost and full refund to return the product to you. Restocking fee for a used part is bullshit and you know. Fact is this ROLLCAGE is damaged and should be cut up for junk iron. Not reused even for a belt bar. This is a safety feature, and you should not have sold it to anyone for any price damaged. If RPM can repair it, have it repaired and inspected by them and then sell it!!!




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[weather man]

If something is being sold that is damaged, the first picture sent should be of the worst damage, like what the OP posted.

 

[blackmustang12]

I can't stand fucking assholes that get in the middle of a transaction dispute and then throw up the "restocking charges and labor charges for packing". That's pretty much a "FUCK YOU" to the buyer.

you are exactly right skwerl. I am done buying used stuff. Everytime i do, i get screwed.

Let me get this right...

Buyer pays for product and shipping on original purchase.

Buyer receives, not happy with product.
Asks for refund or other repair to item. Reasonable compromise!

Seller says sorry can't help ya.

Buyer post in bad seller thread-files claim with PayPal.

Seller offers to take back but buyer will again have to foot the bill for shipping.

Buyer cries foul again ask for compromise on sellers part.

Seller adds restocking fee as well as shipping then adds insult to injury by stating that original shipping could not be refunded.

Seller puts buyer off until tomorrow...

Is this about right?

Mike, IMO you need to step up, suck it up and either pay the reasonable 100 buck split the buyer ask for to have repaired or shipping cost and full refund to return the product to you. Restocking fee for a used part is bullshit and you know. Fact is this ROLLCAGE is damaged and should be cut up for junk iron. Not reused even for a belt bar. This is a safety feature, and you should not have sold it to anyone for any price damaged. If RPM can repair it, have it repaired and inspected by them and then sell it!!!




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you are correct sir.