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Deal gone bad.....

I bought a gt500 posi unit from bolted 3V for $190, seemed like a decent price until I found out you can get them for $225 brand new from latemodelrestoration. Never mind that though, this unit was installed while my engine was being swapped out so I didn't get to drive it for a while after it was installed, finally get to drive the car and it's humming like a cheap whore. Tow it to a REPUTABLE shop that does almost all the work for a local forum I'm on and he tells me that the carrier is warped. Hit up the seller and let him know. Absolutely not willing to do ANYTHING to make the situation better. It's all good though. I've already ordered my new posi unit and plan on being very selective about who I buy from in the future. Thanks to everyone else I bought from during my build that didn't SCREW me.


I think this is a bullshit call out...and I'm not affiliated with the seller or buyer in anyway..

1st.. Not knowing the market value vs. new value for what YOU agreed to pay is YOUR FAULT.

2nd.. Couldn't this "warping" be due to a faulty install?

3rd.. Some shit is better left to be bought "new"


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I think this is a bullshit call out...and I'm not affiliated with the seller or buyer in anyway..

1st.. Not knowing the market value vs. new value for what YOU agreed to pay is YOUR FAULT.

2nd.. Couldn't this "warping" be due to a faulty install?

3rd.. Some shit is better left to be bought "new"


My $0.02


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I think this is a bullshit call out...and I'm not affiliated with the seller or buyer in anyway..

1st.. Not knowing the market value vs. new value for what YOU agreed to pay is YOUR FAULT.

2nd.. Couldn't this "warping" be due to a faulty install?

3rd.. Some shit is better left to be bought "new"


My $0.02

1. Agreed, it is my fault for not doing the research

2. It was done by a reputable shop, so that's out the window nice try.

3. You are correct and that is why I'm buying a new one. I learned a lesson. Not to trust used parts.

Say what you want but I got FUCKED in this deal. My understanding is that this was a thread started to express how you felt about a bad deal. That's what I did, if you don't like it tough shit.
 

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I don't understand how a "warped" carrier will cause a humming noise. Maybe if the disks are slipping and your not getting tracktion, then yeah... Bad carrier, shit deal. I've never heard of a "noise" begin caused by warped carrier. Sounds like someone took a nap installing a gear set...
 

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I'd like to share everything that I'm currently going through with a member of this site, wesmcf.

I had purchased a transmission from from Wes a few weeks ago. The price was $600 plus shipping. We started working out shipping quotes, and we mentioned possibly meeting halfway if we couldn't get a cheap enough rate. After he got a few quotes, the cheapest the guy could get me was $190, shipped through Estes Freight, or $130 to meet him in Kentucky. Okay, deal, ship it out.

So, the guy had me send him $790 and that he would get everything shipped out as soon as the money went into his account. He had also told me that, if the price was a bit different than what he quoted me, he would either reimburse me or he would send me an invoice for the difference. So, a few days later he lets me know the money went through and that he'll get it shipped out in the next few days.

Two days later, he calls me at work and tells me the actual shipping is going to be about $320. I tell him no, so he wants to try and get me to meet halfway. At this point, I'm getting leery about the whole situation, so I just ask him for a refund. I don't have a truck and my Dad works weekends, so it would be next to impossible for me to meet up with the guy. He tells me it'll be a while before he can refund me, because he already spent the money. Okay, not cool, but whatever, I'll be patient.

A few days later, he texts me and is trying to get me to meet up with him again. I tell him no, I just can't do it. He goes off on me, saying that it's not his fault that the buyer backed out at the last minute and that he can't pull the money out of his ***. This was Thursday, the 7th. I tell him he has until the 15th to get me my money before I resort to PayPal. Last night, I filed a dispute against him, and here's what happened:

From me:

Like I said, I gave you a week to refund my money and you've failed to do so. I understand we had discussed meeting halfway for the transmission, but that option is no longer available to me, due to personal matters. I also understand that you have already spent the money I paid you, but I have to take action; I can't afford to just sit around while I have $790 out there, hoping for you to get back with me. Since I'm unable to meet halfway, I really don't know of any other options to resolve this, other than a refund. Please get back with me so we can work this out.
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From Wes:

Like we agreed I had till Friday to get the money. What happened to that? I have the cash but can't make it to the bank till Saturday. I am sending back $740 due to the fact I had to pay paypal fees and take my time to package and drive to the shipping company before you told me you didn't want it.
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From me:

The time when I file the claim doesn't matter, I'm just getting the ball rolling. it wouldn't matter if I filed this tomorrow or tonight. You'll send me a full refund, I'm not bargaining with you on that. When you refund the money, PayPal will refund you the fees and it'll be like this never happened. I will not accept $740. You said the shipping center was 4 miles from your work, it's not like you had to go out of your way.
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From Wes:

I have forwarded all our messages and your contact info to my dad and he will figure it out by filing a counter complaint against you but it will be settled tomorrow

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Today, his father texted me and said this:

"I am trying to resolve the transmission issue. I have spoken with PayPal to discuss the dispute and possible solutions. First and foremost - We are not refusing to repay you. When you entered into the agreement to purchase the transmission Wes used the funds to pay some outstanding bills. He advised you that he would work out the repayment. In your correspondence that was fine with you. I understand that things and priorities change. What the facts are: you broke the purchase contract. We had expenses and time invested in getting your transmission ready for shipment. I will send you $740 today via PayPal and close this mess. If that is not satisfactory, we will pursue the steps thru PayPal which according to them could take 30 days or more. I look forward to hearing from you and resolving this issue."

My reply:

(Father's name), I appreciate you getting back with me. Like I told Wes, I'm not willing to negotiate the refund price with you. Regardless of whether you sent me the transmission or you send it to another person, you have to package it. In order to even get an accurate quote, the transmission should have been weighed after it was packaged. I refuse to pay anything out of my own pocket for this. Either you can send a full refund, or I'll be forced to escalate the claim. I've been patient and understanding, but I won't bargain with you on this."

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I just want everyone to be aware of this user. He tried to suck a few extra bucks from me multiple times during this transaction, so be weary of dealing with this man. The claim has been filed with PayPal, and I'm eager to get this resolved.
 
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Dang bro, I didn't know your gave out loans...lol j/k... That's a situation I hope to never find myself in... Hope everything gets resolved propperly. Some people just don't get it...
 

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Thanks, man. I guess I didn't realize I was a fucking bank. Anyone else want a few bucks from me? All you have to do is tell me you did something that took time out of your day, I'll PayPal you immediately. Single file line, kids!
 

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wow, let me run to my dad to fix my problems. thats pretty gay
 
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^^This - What a bitch getting his daddy involved. He violated the agreement by changing the agreed upon shipping rate. I would escalate that asap, their just buying time. Paypal sits on it giving both parties a chance to reach an agreement. To me they sound like crooks, escalate and be done with it.
 

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Don't worry, I escalated it to a claim as soon as those texts were sent this afternoon. Wes had told me that, if the price was different than what he quoted, I would either be responsible for the difference or I would be reimbursed. That would have been okay, had it only been a few bucks difference. But, damn near twice the quoted price? I can't deal with that.
 

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And they contacted you by texts? They're really owning up. I have shipped trannys and crate engines, its really not that much to get a 1/4 pallet, some heavy duty nylon straps and some plastic wrap. Call up Greyhound or whoever and your on your way... To have grown men text you threatening that they're keeping your cash is crazy. Like its your fault for buying their stuff... Crazy world we live in huh?
 

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I've got a handful of emails, discussing the shipping quotes and whatnot. After that, we discussed everything by texts. I recently updated my phone and lost all my old texts and contacts, but I don't really think a text is worth much, as far as proving my case goes. What really gets me is that they feel like I breached some imaginary contract. I mean, someone please correct me if I'm in the wrong with this situation, I'm honestly looking for some outside perspective.
 

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For you as the buyer, your straight. You paid the seller. He gave you a quote that was agreed upon and thats it. The deal has been struck. If the seller shorted themselves on the shipping quote? Such it is, they gotta own up to it. I shorted myself on the sihpping of a sub woofer and box, came out to twice of what I thought and guess what? I ate it... I didn't get back foul at the buyer saying the shipping was more. That was that, I said whoops and it was shipped. For us selling parts, it's up to us how we go about getting shipping quotes. In the end though, the dude you bought this trans from is in la la land... That money should of been left in limbo till the product was shipped. Doesn't matter what other deals the seller had going on that YOUR money was going to fund. It has to left like that because you never know. If it comes out too expensive, the buyer needs to know then the deal needs to be reworked. It's not the sellers decision of how the buyers money gets spent and really not up to the seller on wether or not to return the buyers money.... Sorry this is happening to you bro...
 
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ive been in a similar situation before, but with SMS about a red butterfly hood. I lost 2000 bucks and a hood on that. They will not reply to anything, and after a year of trying, i finally decided to cut my losses and move on.
 

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ive been in a similar situation before, but with SMS about a red butterfly hood. I lost 2000 bucks and a hood on that. They will not reply to anything, and after a year of trying, i finally decided to cut my losses and move on.

I would sue their ass..
 

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For you as the buyer, your straight. You paid the seller. He gave you a quote that was agreed upon and thats it. The deal has been struck. If the seller shorted themselves on the shipping quote? Such it is, they gotta own up to it. I shorted myself on the sihpping of a sub woofer and box, came out to twice of what I thought and guess what? I ate it... I didn't get back foul at the buyer saying the shipping was more. That was that, I said whoops and it was shipped. For us selling parts, it's up to us how we go about getting shipping quotes. In the end though, the dude you bought this trans from is in la la land... That money should of been left in limbo till the product was shipped. Doesn't matter what other deals the seller had going on that YOUR money was going to fund. It has to left like that because you never know. If it comes out too expensive, the buyer needs to know then the deal needs to be reworked. It's not the sellers decision of how the buyers money gets spent and really not up to the seller on wether or not to return the buyers money.... Sorry this is happening to you bro...

I completely agree with you, when I quote someone a price, if I have to use an online calculator or something, I know there's a certain risk that it could be more or less expensive. I will NEVER ask a buyer to pay me extra after a price is agreed upon. If the price happens to be less, I'll contact the buyer and let he/she know that they have a reimbursement on their way. I just think this is the honest way to do things. Guess some people just don't think that way.

ive been in a similar situation before, but with SMS about a red butterfly hood. I lost 2000 bucks and a hood on that. They will not reply to anything, and after a year of trying, i finally decided to cut my losses and move on.

Fuck that noise, man. I'm sorry to hear about that, but there has to be some legal action that you could take. That's too big of a hit to just "cut your losses." Since my transaction was done through PayPal, if he doesn't reply to everything in the next 10 days, PayPal automatically goes in my favor. The only thing I'm worried about is that I'll get the dreaded message from them saying, "PayPal has decided in your favor, but there's no money in Mr. Asshole's account, so you're fucked."
 

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there is nothing, i contacted my lawyer adnd he had no luck getting them to respond either. and it was done on paypal if i remember correctly but they said that sms has taken care of it and disregarded the claim.

and if he has no money in his account, and he paid bills with it, then he has it linked to his bank account. And if its linked to his bank account, it will take it out of there instead. and it will put him negative in his account if i am correct
 
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