Lean Code + Funky AFR readings = Worried (with video)

6605stang

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So at an autocross event a couple weeks back I stopped for gas at a crappy gas station prior and then 15 minutes later, I threw a p171/174 set of codes. Car seemed to be running fine though. Cleared it... it came back. Thought maybe I got some bad gas... putz'd the tank empty, filled with good gas... same thing. And since the beginning I started paying closer attention to my AFR gauge and I'll be honest, it's doing some weird things, but I'm not an expert to say what is SHOULD be reading at all times so I'm a bit confused. What do find odd is that it appears to be going full lean when I go to neutral after throttle (even very little throttle). And at idle it seems to be having a very hard time finding the right spot to rest (presumablely around 14.5). But honestly, this is the first time I've EVER had a potential fuel/lean issue with a car, so I'm (1) freaked out and (2) clueless. Below is a link to some video I took of my wideband gauge while doing some different driving around the neighborhood. Pardon the shakey vertical video, but it's the best I could do.

Thoughts? Ideas of what I need to check/try next?

Peculiar AFR readings and lean codes - YouTube

PS - yes, my oil pressure gauge is disconnected.

Any helpful thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

JR
 

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What do your fuel trims look like when it's "weird"?

Have you cleaned/recalibrated your wideband O2 or replace it? Always best to double check against a wideband known to be accurate. My wideband is .8 pts off when rich, says 10.8 but it's 11.8 according to dynojet. For some reason it reads nominal and lean conditions just fine. I havent put forth the effort to do what I just preached, but my fuel trims are bang on.
 

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What do your fuel trims look like when it's "weird"?

Have you cleaned/recalibrated your wideband O2 or replace it? Always best to double check against a wideband known to be accurate. My wideband is .8 pts off when rich, says 10.8 but it's 11.8 according to dynojet. For some reason it reads nominal and lean conditions just fine. I havent put forth the effort to do what I just preached, but my fuel trims are bang on.

Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly do you mean by "fuel trims"? If you mean the AFR, then what I'm noticing is it used to settle out perfectly to about 14.7 at idle. But now when I go from throttle (even very light throttle) to neutral, it pegs to 16.0 and stays there for a minute or two, then bounces its way around back to about 14.9... But even then it fluctuates quite a bit for idle. Sometimes back up to 15.6-15.8.

It's like it can't figure out what it's supposed to be doing. And the weird thing is, it appears to throw the codes when I go to a neutral idle, which coincidentally is when the wide band pegs lean as well. Under heavy throttle it appears to dump fuel just fine. So weird. I wonder if it's a bad or dirty MAF. I've tried to clean it once with a q-tip but I'm not sure how you're supposed to clean them exactly.

I have not cleaned the O2. What do you clean it with? For the time being I was assuming it was reading correctly since I was also getting lean codes for both banks. But if that a common thing that causes these two symptoms I'll certainly try that.

Is it possible this is as simple as a stopped up fuel filter?
 

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I'd change the filter because it's cheap and easy.

You can possibly clean an O2 with a torch. I'd replace it.

Finally, you may have destroyed your MAF sensor. I'd get a new one from Ford. I'm not sure how much these engines reference the maf at idle.
 

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They are very sensitive AFAIK can only be cleaned by maf cleaning solution. Who knows. Dealerships and shops just commonly replace them if they are suspected to be dirty. Diagnosis time costs more than the part.
 

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Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly do you mean by "fuel trims"? If you mean the AFR, then what I'm noticing is it used to settle out perfectly to about 14.7 at idle. But now when I go from throttle (even very light throttle) to neutral, it pegs to 16.0 and stays there for a minute or two, then bounces its way around back to about 14.9... But even then it fluctuates quite a bit for idle. Sometimes back up to 15.6-15.8.

It's like it can't figure out what it's supposed to be doing. And the weird thing is, it appears to throw the codes when I go to a neutral idle, which coincidentally is when the wide band pegs lean as well. Under heavy throttle it appears to dump fuel just fine. So weird. I wonder if it's a bad or dirty MAF. I've tried to clean it once with a q-tip but I'm not sure how you're supposed to clean them exactly.

I have not cleaned the O2. What do you clean it with? For the time being I was assuming it was reading correctly since I was also getting lean codes for both banks. But if that a common thing that causes these two symptoms I'll certainly try that.

Is it possible this is as simple as a stopped up fuel filter?

Fuel trims can be seen in datalog monitoring. If you hook up your handheld and monitor the datalog, you should see short term 1 & 2 and long term 1 & 2. 1.00 is the ideal fuel trim for both banks (which are the upstream O2 readings) 1.00 means the computer is happy with what it has for fuel being delivered and the tune is spot on. +/- 5% is also acceptable. +/- 10% means the ECU is having to add or remove that much fuel trim to hit the target AFR. If short term banks 1 & 2 don't match each other within 1-2% you may have an O2 or other fuel issue. Say bank 1 says .85 and bank 2 says 1.00. Since you can't tune a 3v bank to bank like a Coyote, the ECU is going to side on caution and use the fuel trim for .85 as best it can to keep target AFR. This could cause your AFR readings to SNAFU. But in either case, it points to a fuel issue. O2's, injectors, fuel filter, or tune.


As far as cleaning the MAF, it's highly preferred to spray clean the MAF with electrical parts cleaner or "MAF" cleaner. Carb cleaner works just as well. I've even used brake parts cleaner in pinch. You don't want to swab it as you could damage the element and/or leave behind particulates that could interfere with MAF function. You could do a datalog of a 4th gear WOT pull, maybe 2k/rpm to 4k/rpm if you wanted to be "safe" and input the log on your computer, download livelink from SCT and check the MAF readings. If it plots a smooth graph line, I doubt it's the MAF malfunctioning or being dirty. If it's jagged and funky, you could have a MAF problem.

As stated already, you can clean your O2's by using a torch. Personally I soak my O2's in CRC Electrical parts cleaner over-night. Swish it around once in a while so the fluid moves throughout the fins. This usually breaks up the majority of any carbon build up. After that I let it air dry, and THEN I hit it with the torch and check resistance. It's not so much the resistance as it is how fast it reacts. Once you heat it evenly, breaking down any remaining carbons/contaminants, you should be able to watch your ohm meter (if yours response fast enough) and see 1/10th of a second reactions when you hit it with the flame a few times.

Our upstream O2's are heated, so it's still possible you could clean the sensors and still have issues if the heating elements are bad, only way to know is to try. Personally I'll always try to clean my O2's before I junk them. I can't stand spending $70-$90 on O2 sensors. Pisses me off just thinking about it.
 

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