Line lock question

[rayS197]

LOL. Have fun cleaning. Nice though

 

[thunderstang]

OP, also keep in mind that it will work opposite.... If you hit the switch without holding the brake pedal down you will lose your front brakes..... Id hate to hear that you rear ended somebody by accidently hitting the switch driving

Please explain a little more on this. My Hurst Line Lock is on a momentary switch on my shifter. If I'm driving, hold the switch in, tap my brakes and let off, then the rear brakes let go and the fronts still drag. Maybe its just the Hurst ones are like this?? but with power to the Line Lock fluid still goes through it to the brakes but cannot feed back through. This is just how my car is, I'm not trying to start anything.

 

[stkjock]

it's a bit different with a momentary because you hold the button down. once you press the button the solenoid will engage and you will not have pressure go to the front brakes. release the button and the fluid will flow again.

a switch is on then off, so if you flip the switch while driving, in effect you will not have front brakes. if you press on the pedal it will be stiff and the pad will not get the pressure needed to apply stopping power.

 

[NjsGT]

it's a bit different with a momentary because you hold the button down. once you press the button the solenoid will engage and you will not have pressure go to the front brakes. release the button and the fluid will flow again.

a switch is on then off, so if you flip the switch while driving, in effect you will not have front brakes. if you press on the pedal it will be stiff and the pad will not get the pressure needed to apply stopping power.

Couldn't have explained it any better... thanx stk

 

[thunderstang]

it's a bit different with a momentary because you hold the button down. once you press the button the solenoid will engage and you will not have pressure go to the front brakes. release the button and the fluid will flow again.

a switch is on then off, so if you flip the switch while driving, in effect you will not have front brakes. if you press on the pedal it will be stiff and the pad will not get the pressure needed to apply stopping power.

Ok, but if you hold a momentary switch in it's the same as turning on an on/off switch, Right? The solenoid will see a constant voltage. Ex. when I do my burnout, I hold in the linelock button, pump my brakes a time or two, do a second gear burnout, let the button out and roll out of the water box.

This tells me one, that I can still put brake pressure to the front brakes with the solenoid engaged. Two that if an on/off switch is turned on when driving that the fronts will get the pressure but not release it until the switch is turned off.

All of my personal experence is using a Hurst LL, it may be different.

 

[NjsGT]

Ok, but if you hold a momentary switch in it's the same as turning on an on/off switch, Right? The solenoid will see a constant voltage. Ex. when I do my burnout, I hold in the linelock button, pump my brakes a time or two, do a second gear burnout, let the button out and roll out of the water box.

This tells me one, that I can still put brake pressure to the front brakes with the solenoid engaged. Two that if an on/off switch is turned on when driving that the fronts will get the pressure but not release it until the switch is turned off.

All of my personal experence is using a Hurst LL, it may be different.

Actually, when you do your burnout, don't pump the brakes just push down on the pedal decently hard and hold it down, then hold in your LL button, remove your foot off the brake pedal but keep on holding the LL button down, do your burnout, then roll out by taking your thumb off the LL button.

 

[thunderstang]

Actually, when you do your burnout, don't pump the brakes just push down on the pedal decently hard and hold it down, then hold in your LL button, remove your foot off the brake pedal but keep on holding the LL button down, do your burnout, then roll out by taking your thumb off the LL button.

I have been using this LL since 2006 and have great success doing it the way I explained. Different methods work for different people. The point I was trying to make was that with my solenoid engaged I am still able to apply pressure to my front brakes.

 

[stkjock]

Ok, but if you hold a momentary switch in it's the same as turning on an on/off switch, Right? The solenoid will see a constant voltage. Ex. when I do my burnout, I hold in the linelock button, pump my brakes a time or two, do a second gear burnout, let the button out and roll out of the water box.

This tells me one, that I can still put brake pressure to the front brakes with the solenoid engaged. Two that if an on/off switch is turned on when driving that the fronts will get the pressure but not release it until the switch is turned off.

All of my personal experence is using a Hurst LL, it may be different.

when you hold the momentary the solenoid will engage and prevent any fluid to or from the front calipers.


if you hold the momentary while your foot is not on the brake (as your example) then pump, the pedal should be stiff and not hold the front brakes at all.

the solenoids do not create the pressure, they merely hold in in the lines

I have been using this LL since 2006 and have great success doing it the way I explained. Different methods work for different people. The point I was trying to make was that with my solenoid engaged I am still able to apply pressure to my front brakes.

something does not sound right to me the way you describe your process.

 

[dysan]

Dave...I think that there are some solenoids that have 1 way check valves in them that way you can activate the line lock, then press the pedal and it will let the fluid to to the calipers but not back to the reservoir.

 

[stkjock]

Dave...I think that there are some solenoids that have 1 way check valves in them that way you can activate the line lock, then press the pedal and it will let the fluid to to the calipers but not back to the reservoir.

ahhh, well then that would make sense.

 

[thunderstang]

Dave...I think that there are some solenoids that have 1 way check valves in them that way you can activate the line lock, then press the pedal and it will let the fluid to to the calipers but not back to the reservoir.

Thank you Sir, I'm glad I'm not crazy. I was about to go home tonight and try to make a video so everyone else didn't think I was as well.

To the OP. as I said before my experence is with the Hurst LL. The other gentlemen here have linelockes that operate different. Just comes down to knowing what YOU have.

 

[stkjock]

YEA, I found the Hurst instructions on-line, they say to press down, hold button, press again and release. 4 years and never heard of this style.

and thunderstang - you are still crazy...... just not for this reason.

 

[Diabolical!]

I use the PMP kit with Jeg's solenoids. I've always had to pump the brakes twice before engaging the line locks to get a really good hold.

 

[thunderstang]

stkjock you sir are not the first person to tell me that. I'm glad we got this figured out.

 

[RED09GT]

YEA, I found the Hurst instructions on-line, they say to press down, hold button, press again and release. 4 years and never heard of this style.

and thunderstang - you are still crazy...... just not for this reason.

It's been the same since the 90's with the Hursts. The SLP behaves the same as a Hurst, if you don't have enough pressure to hold the car, you can add more with a pump. One of the backwoods tracks here has a slight uphill at the starting line so you need to have just a bit of pressure from the line lock to hold it from rolling out of the beams.