More whiteline problems

[steve13gt]

FRONT BUSHING


TOP VIEW OF FRONT BUSHING, OFFSET


BOLT FROM REAR



REAR BUSHING



REAR OUTSIDE


Second time this bolt has pulled the threads in the same spot. Bolts have always been torqued using a torque wrench and installed as per the installation instructions. I noticed the bushing for the front of the car is set off to one side, so much so that the metal portion of the control arm is making contract with the car. Ive taken the control arms as its not worth my totalling the car when the bolt lets go for the 3rd time.

 

[Roadracer350]

I can't tell from the pic but are the threads pulling from the nut or the bolt?

 

[Roadracer350]

Also what bolts are you using? The Whiteline kit does not come with them? Are they stock bolts? How many times have you torqued them? The "metal" part of the bushing in mine looks like plated alum. They won't do that to the bolts. What did your torque the bolts to? To me it looks like a bolt problem not a control arm problem. You need to contact Terry at Vorshlage. If it is a control arm problem Whiteline will make it right.

 

[steve13gt]

The bolts are from the whiteline relocation brackets, you cant use the stock bolts as they are not long enough to go through the nylon of the lock nuts, however they have been installed temporarily with blue loctite. How many times, ive torqued them, once when I got them late last year, and now as I pulled the car out just before my first track event. They are practically brand new. Torque was 129 ft/lbs, and torqued fine.. Im a licensed tech, I went to check them yesterday and noticed they would not tighten nor loosen as threads were gone on the bolt. (Second time)

 

[Roadracer350]

That's way weird.... Call Terry and I bet he can tell you whats up. I wonder if the bolts you got were to soft? If it was me I would go down and get me some grade 8 bolts with some new Nylocks.

 

[fun4me]

That's way weird.... Call Terry and I bet he can tell you whats up. I wonder if the bolts you got were to soft? If it was me I would go down and get me some grade 8 bolts with some new Nylocks.

What about the front bushing? Is it supposed to look like that?

 

[Roadracer350]

They are offset on the ones I have

 

[steve13gt]

The rear is offset yes, but the front is only offset on the one lca, the drivers is centers and doesnt make metal/metal contact... This is the second time, unless they keep giving me bad bolts.. Im tired of risking losing the car due to a LCA coming apart

 

[Sky Render]

Wow, I've had zero problems with my Whiteline LCAs.

What bolt is that? The one that connects the LCA to the axle? Are you running relocation brackets?

 

[Roadracer350]

Just go get some GOOD Grade 8 bolts with NEW nylocks and your done. You NEED to call Terry...

 

[fun4me]

Wow, I've had zero problems with my Whiteline LCAs.

What bolt is that? The one that connects the LCA to the axle? Are you running relocation brackets?

I think thats the bolt that connects the lca to the relo. Scary stuff.

 

[BMR Tech]

I cannot tell, but are those fine threads on the bolts? If so, I am not surprised that is happening.

The fronts should NOT have offset to them, so that is definitely not proper.

If they don't send you new bolts, OR if those are fine threaded.....I have some spare bolts/nuts from one of our Relo Bracket kits laying here on my desk, that I can send you to try. I have never seen anything like this happen with our hardware on the axle.



Let me know!

 

[BMR Tech]

Just go get some GOOD Grade 8 bolts with NEW nylocks and your done. You NEED to call Terry...

Apparently you are not looking at his front bushing, where the metal of the surrounding sleeve is contacting the LCA mount?

He needs better hardware, and a correct front bushing set-up.

 

[fun4me]

Forget grade 8. 10.9 is oem.

 

[Roadracer350]

Apparently you are not looking at his front bushing, where the metal of the surrounding sleeve is contacting the LCA mount?

He needs better hardware, and a correct front bushing set-up.

Like I said he needs to call Terry and and figure it out. I didnt know the stock was 10.9. This is the first time I have heard anyone having this problem. Before we make this into a Whiteline bashing party we need to get Vorshlage involved and find out what the problem is. He may have the wrong bolt. This could have been from a bad heat tret batch etc. We dont know but I do know Whiteline will make it right.

 

[Sky Render]

Also, OP, did you install all 4 washers (1 on each side of both control arms) on the front bushings?

 

[fun4me]

Like I said he needs to call Terry and and figure it out. I didnt know the stock was 10.9. This is the first time I have heard anyone having this problem. Before we make this into a Whiteline bashing party we need to get Vorshlage involved and find out what the problem is. He may have the wrong bolt. This could have been from a bad heat tret batch etc. We dont know but I do know Whiteline will make it right.

They sent him replacement bolts, this is the second set. Are those bushings servicable?

 

[Roadracer350]

Also, OP, did you install all 4 washers (1 on each side of both control arms) on the front bushings?

I forgot to ask that!

 

[Vorshlag-Fair]

Yes, by all means, if you bought those from Vorshlag please call us (972-422-7170) and we will get to the bottom of it. If not, call your Whiteline dealer. I'm sure they'd be more than helpful, too.

So I just crawled under our Mustang and looked, and there should not be any bushing offset. Something is happening there, obviously. We have the same Whiteline lower arms on our car for about 8 or 9 months now and no issues. My main tech, that installed these and inspects the car before each race, is working at the World Challenge race at COTA or I'd ask him what bolts are in our car. From what I can see it is a Grade 10.9 bolt and Nylock nut on each end, with 2+ threads protruding through the Nylon. Don't know if that is the factory LCA hardware or not.

Each time we've installed lower control arms on an S197 we go through a procedure to square up the rear axle with the car and front wheels. This involves LASER BEAMS, and even sharks. What I'm saying is that if one side is pushing the front LCA bushing out, maybe the axle isn't square in the car? Just trying to figure out what is going on there.

If you get nowhere with your Whiteline dealer, call us...

 

[Roadracer350]

See! Ask and you shall receive!