My car stalls when I push in the clutch while decelerating

Aandf1978

M90 SUPPORTER!!
Joined
Mar 22, 2010
Posts
3,264
Reaction score
6
Location
Virginia Beach, VA
Hmmm well that does kinda change things I guess, I thought it was doing it at idle as well. Well either way, maybe swapping the TB might show something, cause the TPS and the TB will be knocked out in one shot. I don't know hope you find something.
 

Ampire

3 valve
Joined
Apr 3, 2011
Posts
1,119
Reaction score
0
Location
Maryland
I had a problem like this with my original canned diablosport tune. The car would stall with the AC on if I was in heavy traffic and doing a lot of 1st gear 2nd gear neutral 1st gear etc, every time I depressed the clutch pedal the engine would dip rpm from like 800 to 400 back to 800. If it was really bad the car would just stall. Only occured with the AC on. A custom tune solved the problem. It was an AC Idle parameter setting that was too low.

On another car, I had a similar issue but it would stall in neutral or in gear with clutch disengaged. That was a fuel injector problem, I also had a occasional cylinder misfire code with that issue.

My suggestion would be to take off the cai, put on the stock intake, and flash the tune to the original tune. If the problem sticks around, you know its not the tune.

Reasons I think it is the tune: you aren't having a CEL, and because there is a parameter on some tuners to adjust the idle setting under different conditions. Because the tune is so easy to diagnose, you should do this first. Its like 15 minutes of work.

I would expect most of the other issues to occur BOTH when the car is in neutral or when the car is in gear but with the clutch disengaged.

Also, does the switch on the clutch pedal only complete a circuit to start the car, or does it serve a dual purpose of also letting the ECU know to drop to the idle RPM?

I don't know this for sure however my suspicion is that it is both. There is a parameter for Idle Drive and Idle Neutral on the SCT tuner, I would guess it does the Idle Drive setting when the car is in gear but with clutch disengaged.

Someone correct me if I am wrong please!
 
Last edited by a moderator:

wabirch

Bill
Joined
Nov 8, 2009
Posts
185
Reaction score
0
Location
Illinois
I'm not using my TB. It was on on 09 Bullitt for a couple of years, no problems. Be happy to loan it to you to isolate the trouble if you need it.
 

Mr.

Member
Joined
Sep 1, 2010
Posts
76
Reaction score
0
Location
Queens, NY
Very informative post! Thank you for taking the time to write that. Once I verify that the things I have done haven't solved the problem, I will try swapping the stock intake/tune back in.
 

Mr.

Member
Joined
Sep 1, 2010
Posts
76
Reaction score
0
Location
Queens, NY
I'm not using my TB. It was on on 09 Bullitt for a couple of years, no problems. Be happy to loan it to you to isolate the trouble if you need it.
Wow, thanks man! If everything else falls through, I will let you know.
 

Mr.

Member
Joined
Sep 1, 2010
Posts
76
Reaction score
0
Location
Queens, NY
Just to update this thread - I cleaned the MAF the other day with CRC MAF cleaner, tested the PCV valve(it was good), disconnected the battery for more than 15 minutes, reset the idle again, and reloaded the 93 race tune. I havent been driving my car much, but so far no stalls. That's definately not to say that anything I've done so far has fixed it. I need to drive it more and keep trying to make it stall under the same conditions.

I also noticed how easily the PCV hose slips on and off the passenger side valve cover, so I'm going to put a hose clamp on it. I don't know if that will be a possible fix, but it can't hurt anything.

I wish I had more to say in this post, but that's all I got for now.
 

lito

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 8, 2008
Posts
3,900
Reaction score
28
Location
Caracas, Venezuela
I also noticed how easily the PCV hose slips on and off the passenger side valve cover, so I'm going to put a hose clamp on it. I don't know if that will be a possible fix, but it can't hurt anything.

Does the connector has the green lock broken or stuck in the open position? if right it won't come off.
 

silver rhyno

Member
Joined
Jul 25, 2011
Posts
292
Reaction score
0
Location
Texas
i had a problem just like yours on a fox body..push then clutch in and it died..traced it down to a bad ground...maybe this helps
 

Mr.

Member
Joined
Sep 1, 2010
Posts
76
Reaction score
0
Location
Queens, NY
Does the connector has the green lock broken or stuck in the open position? if right it won't come off.
That's the drivers side. That one is locked. The one I was referring to was the hose that comes off the intake and into the passenger side valve cover. That one is loose as a DP loving whore. Can't remember how snug the OEM hose was on it, but it just seemed like it slips off too easily.
 

NicD

Member
Joined
Aug 9, 2010
Posts
165
Reaction score
0
Location
Los Angeles
My 05 GT had the same issue. The stalling was only associated with a significant RPM drop the same way you're describing. Both times it was the throttle position sensor. Cleaning the sensor took care of the issue.
 

Mr.

Member
Joined
Sep 1, 2010
Posts
76
Reaction score
0
Location
Queens, NY
My 05 GT had the same issue. The stalling was only associated with a significant RPM drop the same way you're describing. Both times it was the throttle position sensor. Cleaning the sensor took care of the issue.
How do you go about cleaning it?
 

bigray327

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 20, 2007
Posts
4,452
Reaction score
100
Location
League City, Texas
I battled this many times over the evolution of my car. In all cases, it was fixed by my tuner, after sufficient whining by me.

Tip: it's really easy to pop the clutch to restart, when this happens, since you usually have some decent speed going.
 

bullitt boy

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 19, 2009
Posts
1,785
Reaction score
15
Location
NJ
I have a stock 09 Bullitt throttle body complete with electronics. Switch them and try a test drive. I am in englishtown nj.
 

Mr.

Member
Joined
Sep 1, 2010
Posts
76
Reaction score
0
Location
Queens, NY
my money is on it being related to a dirty MAF. the TPS is on the throttle body opposite the side with the butterfly/blade electric motor.
I cleaned it the other day, so after I drive the car around alittle more I will be able to see if this was the cause.
I battled this many times over the evolution of my car. In all cases, it was fixed by my tuner, after sufficient whining by me.

Tip: it's really easy to pop the clutch to restart, when this happens, since you usually have some decent speed going.
Yeah the tune might be the issue, but I'm going over all maintenance/mechanical things first. I figure even if nothing that I do actually fixes the problem, at least I'll end up with new or clean parts on my car that I won't have to worry about for some time. Thanks for the tip too. So far I've been able to just push in the clutch and turn the key to start it back up at speed.
It's a sealed unit, and cannot be cleaned.
LOL, that makes me really curious how he was able to clean his. I was searching various sources and a dirty/faulty TPS can cause my issues. So if the TPS isn't serviceable on our cars, then I will buy a new one just for peace of mind. Even if it's not bad now, it will be eventually.
I have a stock 09 Bullitt throttle body complete with electronics. Switch them and try a test drive. I am in englishtown nj.
Thanks man! I'm going to order a new throttle position sensor and see if that resolves my problem. If I begin to suspect it's the throttle actuator motor, then I will shoot you a PM to take you up on your offer. Very cool of you!:thumb2:
 
Last edited:

Shelbgt05

Member
Joined
Dec 15, 2011
Posts
234
Reaction score
0
Location
West Virginia
Have you cleaned the MAF? If not try going to your local auto shop and get maf cleaner. Go clean it then do idle reset.
 

Support us!

Support Us - Become A Supporting Member Today!

Click Here For Details

Back
Top