Trade for a Shelby?

[avinaj80]

Still not a comparable ratio. More idiot drivers own run of the mills and GT's than a Shelby...

 

[skaarlaj]

More than likely. Hopefully not too many GT500's to be seen at high school parking lots, and employee spaces at Taco Time, hahaha.

 

[46Tbird]

I wonder why more GT's and base models are found wrecked in the yards...

Let me guess... you see normal Mustangs about 20x more often than GT500s.

S197 Mustang Production

2005 - 160412
2006 - 165762
2007 - 158180
2008 - 108767
2009 - 46420
2010 - 47524
2011 - 68650
2012 - 88064
2013 - 77186
2014 - 134075
Total - 1,055,040

S197 GT500 Production

2007 - 10847
2008 - 8583
2009 - 3559
2010 - 4458
2011 - 5100
2012 - 4834
2013 - 4885
2014 - 5685
Total - 47,951

 

[mrgtx]

There's a lot of good insight in this thread...and there are some especially compelling arguments on behalf of the GT.

So my father has a former garage queen 2007 GT500 that he picked up last summer for the "right price." It's still pretty damn pristine (7k miles) but he is a genuine gearhead from the 60s generation and he's doing his best to enjoy the car for what Mr. Shelby intended. I have never seen him drive the thing where he didn't smoke the tires at lest once and he's well into the boost gauge whenever possible. He's planning on taking it to the strip this spring and he's always looking at what mods are going to make the car quicker on the strip rather than just providing bragging rights. I respect the hell out of that.

I've driven it back to back with my lightly modded Coyote/6spd many times and I have to say that it would be a damn tough call for me. The Shelby may not be all that much quicker on paper but the power delivery is so different that the subjective experience is hard to compare the two.

The GT feels nowhere near as special or dramatic but it's more my kind of car...lighter on its feet, happy to rev, flexible, forgiving power band...and the lighter weight makes it feel more eager to change directions. The GT is still powerful but not so crazy-fast that you can't ring it out on the street once in a while.

The Shelby on the other hand, feels like cheetah in a cage...so much potential and nowhere to unleash it. It could be a symptom of the 3.31 ratio...but it honestly makes it less carefree and less fun. The car just feels more serious and scary.

Personally, I'm happier with the GT for the kind of hooning that I like to do but I can certainly see the appeal of the Shelby. They're amazing.

 

[weather man]

Let me guess... you see normal Mustangs about 20x more often than GT500s.

S197 Mustang Production

2005 - 160412
2006 - 165762
2007 - 158180
2008 - 108767
2009 - 46420
2010 - 47524
2011 - 68650
2012 - 88064
2013 - 77186
2014 - 134075
Total - 1,055,040

S197 GT500 Production

2007 - 10847
2008 - 8583
2009 - 3559
2010 - 4458
2011 - 5100
2012 - 4834
2013 - 4885
2014 - 5685
Total - 47,951

The great recession just kind of jumps out at you from those numbers!

 

[Sky Render]

I wonder why more GT's and base models are found wrecked in the yards...

Because all the GT500s are garage queens that are never driven hard.



J/K

 

[skaarlaj]

The great recession just kind of jumps out at you from those numbers!

No doubt, 2009 falls short, very short compared to previous years.

 

[mrgtx]

No doubt, 2009 falls short, very short compared to previous years.

Yeah...In addition to the market crash/recession, Mustangs were intentionally produced in smaller numbers in 2009 due to Ford tooling-up for the 2010 refresh...plus there was a little thing called the Camaro that went on sale around that time and started to kick the Mustang's butt in sales.

 

[avinaj80]

Winners...

 

[skaarlaj]

plus there was a little thing called the Camaro that went on sale around that time and started to kick the Mustang's butt in sales.

That one blows me away, have you ever driven / ridden in a newer camaro? I drove a2015 SS automatic before and after I installed a set of headers on, and was a "huge" under-performer. The retro looks must count for alot with the GM crowd, but for me it would've been a "no-sale", if I was to test drive that car in anticipation of a possible purchase.

 

[Sky Render]

Plus you can't see out of the damn thing, it's about as comfortable as a burlap jock strap, and it weighs roughly two Rosie O'Donnels more than a Mustang.

 

[avinaj80]

The new 2016 CTS-VMaro look funny. Saw one in the parking lot of a Target... Just looks odd...

 

[skaarlaj]

Yeah, I was kinda under the assumption that they should be at least somewhat fast, considering they have the holy grail LS engines, but now my opinion of the Camaro, and factory LS engine craze is not too high at all after riding in one.

 

[skaarlaj]

The new 2016 CTS-VMaro look funny. Saw one in the parking lot of a Target... Just looks odd...

I just googled one, reminds me of a lincoln front end??? Nevermind, just looked again, but the price-tag sure is ugly!!

 

[stkjock]

That's not nice to talk about stkjock Dave like that.

I thought Dave's Shelby had like 800 horsepower. I'd classify him in the "I want to go fast" crowd.

Damn it, now my name is going to be pink.

Yes, the car made 775 to the tire, so BHP is probably something in the 850-875 area.

Because all the GT500s are garage queens that are never driven hard.



J/K

I admit mine is a garage queen, driven mostly on a nice weekend day, however, it often sees triple digits, tire smoke and 7000 rpm.

I'm not going to apologize for working hard during my adult life, investing wisely, saving and being in a position to afford a garage queen.

I used to make fun of the whole mid-life crisis deal, until I realized something, if one follows the "typical" path, career, marriage, children, your life takes a path that makes somethings higher priority than a car. It's when you're in the mid-late 40s or later, that your obligations become such that you have more disposiable income, hence the car becomes a option. I know when I bought my 06 it was for exactly those types of reasons. The Shelby came later for similar reasons.

Af for the track, I don't take it there as I do not have needed safety equipment for NHRA rules to be allowed to run it. I did take it once and was told by the track owner not to come back w/o a cage.

 

[skaarlaj]

I'm not going to apologize for working hard during my adult life, investing wisely, saving and being in a position to afford a garage queen.

Hell no, and you shouldn't.

 

[avinaj80]

I'm not going to apologize for working hard during my adult life, investing wisely, saving and being in a position to afford a garage queen.

I used to make fun of the whole mid-life crisis deal, until I realized something, if one follows the "typical" path, career, marriage, children, your life takes a path that makes somethings higher priority than a car. It's when you're in the mid-late 40s or later, that your obligations become such that you have more disposiable income, hence the car becomes a option. I know when I bought my 06 it was for exactly those types of reasons. The Shelby came later for similar reasons.

Af for the track, I don't take it there as I do not have needed safety equipment for NHRA rules to be allowed to run it. I did take it once and was told by the track owner not to come back w/o a cage.

Nuff said...

 

[46Tbird]

I admit mine is a garage queen, driven mostly on a nice weekend day, however, it often sees triple digits, tire smoke and 7000 rpm.

Not a damned thing wrong with that.

 

[MassMustang]

I'm not going to apologize for working hard during my adult life, investing wisely, saving and being in a position to afford a garage queen.

I used to make fun of the whole mid-life crisis deal, until I realized something, if one follows the "typical" path, career, marriage, children, your life takes a path that makes somethings higher priority than a car. It's when you're in the mid-late 40s or later, that your obligations become such that you have more disposiable income, hence the car becomes a option. I know when I bought my 06 it was for exactly those types of reasons. The Shelby came later for similar reasons.

Exactly! I'm not quite there yet, since I still have 3 teenagers to care for, but I wouldn't apologize for being able to afford what you want. Life is short! Enjoy it!

If GTs were $18K and Shelbys were $20K, I think anyone would jump on the Shelby.

 

[eighty6gt]

I'm glad I got into my car when I was 28, now to just coast along forever. Hopefully it runs a while longer before I end up nuking it and putting it up on blocks.