Yet another motor down...

joedls

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Wow!! Mark, you must have the patience of Job. I've had builds with problems before, but this takes the cake. Is there any part of the car that hasn't fucked up?

Keep the faith, bro. You'll have a badass car when you're done.
 

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Great question freak...:beer: I'm going with a custom gasket set-up designed by Rich Groh

I'm also having my Livernois heads redone at a different shop and going all Jesel and some other goodies...:beerdrink:
 

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Rich Groh

Smart man ....side note I wonder if the setup could be drilled/tapped for bigger studs ? Im not sure what levels Vinny or JB are running but it seems the limit people are pushing these too safely is in the 24-27psi range .....


I'm also having my Livernois heads redone at a different shop and going all Jesel and some other goodies...:beerdrink:

I would get with Ron ( spyder ) on the jessel's lmao , he had his work cut out for him .
 

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Smart man ....side note I wonder if the setup could be drilled/tapped for bigger studs ? Im not sure what levels Vinny or JB are running but it seems the limit people are pushing these too safely is in the 24-27psi range .....

Actually, you are spot on and there are some ideas about using billet studs.

I would get with Ron ( spyder ) on the jessel's lmao , he had his work cut out for him .

No- you got it wrong - Ron had problems because he DIDN'T USE Jesel. He used some cheaper, knock off products. Had he used Jesel - he wouldn't have had any issues. That stuff is the balls best no matter what type of motor.
 

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Actually, you are spot on and there are some ideas about using billet studs.


See I may be a coonass but I come up with good ideas sometimes lmao ..... not to shabby for a 25 year old with no racing background and 2 years worth or reading lol .

No- you got it wrong - Ron had problems because he DIDN'T USE Jesel. He used some cheaper, knock off products. Had he used Jesel - he wouldn't have had any issues. That stuff is the balls best no matter what type of motor.

Ah no shit I just double checked I could have sworn It was the jessels he used but it was the other fella who was asking about them , guess that's what I get for skimming parts lists in builds .....
 

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damn.. I still remember the conversations we had years ago with our centris. "If another thing fucks up I'm done with mustangs". Our wifes should shoot us now!
 

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Rats you sold the short block already, I thought I called dibbs on that months ago, it was sold before I even saw the thread. Someone got a sweet deal.

As for the engine, it sucks that you had another problem, but as one of my buddies keeps telling me, speed costs, the faster you want to go the more its going to cost you. You my friend Mark are looking to set records for how fast you go and how much it is going to cost you to get there. But guys like me love guys like you because you test all the parts we want before we can afford to get them. And for that this Bud's for you!:beer:
 

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Rats you sold the short block already, I thought I called dibbs on that months ago, it was sold before I even saw the thread. Someone got a sweet deal.

As for the engine, it sucks that you had another problem, but as one of my buddies keeps telling me, speed costs, the faster you want to go the more its going to cost you. You my friend Mark are looking to set records for how fast you go and how much it is going to cost you to get there. But guys like me love guys like you because you test all the parts we want before we can afford to get them. And for that this Bud's for you!:beer:

Yeah, no shit. Pioneering the way costs a shit load and requires assloads of patience. You need one of those Bud light ads for you.

Real American Heroes: Mr. Making over 1000 HP in a 3V with show car status..
 

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Do the bores have the same rough, scratched up marks in them like the pistons do? Hard to tell from the pics. Looks like the pistons were rocking just a bit in the bores.
 

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DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!! my car would have a couple of 9mm slugs in, wait, it would have a full clip dumped into it, guess we all know shit happens, hate to see it constantly happening to your shit, do you guys need help where you work? I need a job where I could afford shit like this LOL

good luck on the next round, most of us will be here waitin and watchin!
 

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Do the bores have the same rough, scratched up marks in them like the pistons do? Hard to tell from the pics. Looks like the pistons were rocking just a bit in the bores.

Yes and it is exactly matched to the pistons, i.e. the piston with the most damage had the most scratches in the wall and all of the other pistons had slight scratches that were equal in the wall as well. It very much seems the pistons were indeed rocking. I think it may have been doing it for awhile and I just never heard it with my old whipple set-up, long tubes, and loud ass exhaust. Like I said, with the turbo now, I hear everything.
 

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Yes and it is exactly matched to the pistons, i.e. the piston with the most damage had the most scratches in the wall and all of the other pistons had slight scratches that were equal in the wall as well. It very much seems the pistons were indeed rocking. I think it may have been doing it for awhile and I just never heard it with my old whipple set-up, long tubes, and loud ass exhaust. Like I said, with the turbo now, I hear everything.

That sucks. I think I remember following your build from one of the other forums way back in 05 when I picked my car up.
 

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Yes and it is exactly matched to the pistons, i.e. the piston with the most damage had the most scratches in the wall and all of the other pistons had slight scratches that were equal in the wall as well. It very much seems the pistons were indeed rocking. I think it may have been doing it for awhile and I just never heard it with my old whipple set-up, long tubes, and loud ass exhaust. Like I said, with the turbo now, I hear everything.

Marc,
I am VERY sad to see that this happened, but I am VERY happy you found it on the dyno not at 1000 ft mark when something let go!
Good luck with the new motor, I know your getting something serious! You will have to make way east sometime next year, maybe for the ORTC or Shakedown, we can set up a match race!
 

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