If you Drag Race, PLEASE weld your axle tubes.

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You guys are killing me....


Hi Kelly I checked with the guys at Dez racing today and they said in order to do the welding of the tubes it will have to come out of the car and into a jig as mentioned here earlier. They also felt that since I am on a stock clutch, not running slicks, not launching at 6grand and the power level I am at (422rwhp) that I should be safe. Does that sounds correct?

Also I was the one that purchased bushing kit last week. Thank you for the service that you provided on that!!!!
 

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Nice! Roundabout $$ estimate on one of those monsters?

$2000-2500 depending on which options you choose.


If the CHE brace is the only option on the market, and it works, what would be our reason for making one? Just because we have a 3-letter name and it ends with an R.....doesn't mean we have to play that game. :popcorneat:

Don't make me come up there. I told you I wasn't afraid to blackmail you with that picture of you and I at Source Interlink's car show last week.:evillaugh:


Hi Kelly I checked with the guys at Dez racing today and they said in order to do the welding of the tubes it will have to come out of the car and into a jig as mentioned here earlier. They also felt that since I am on a stock clutch, not running slicks, not launching at 6grand and the power level I am at (422rwhp) that I should be safe. Does that sounds correct?

Also I was the one that purchased bushing kit last week. Thank you for the service that you provided on that!!!!

There was a guy on AFM recently who twisted his tubes on the street in a stock power Coyote on street tires and aftermarket rear suspension.
 

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There was a guy on AFM recently who twisted his tubes on the street in a stock power Coyote on street tires and aftermarket rear suspension.


Wow that seems like more of a manufacture defect then. Is this more of a problem with the newer models or are you seeing this will all 05+?
 

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Yea mines definitely twisted. I tried every combination of rpm and tire pressure to get mine to hook yesterday and all it would do is a 1.88 and all it would want is to pull right and be squirly to the point I had to shut down. My rear is cockeyed and pinion angle is 0* so getting it all fixed when I get home, found a guy with a jig and chassis shop who can fix it right. Gotta find a adjustable upper and mount as well.
 

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For those of you who welded the housing/tubes yourself, what kind of wire and heat are you using?
 

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Wow that seems like more of a manufacture defect then. Is this more of a problem with the newer models or are you seeing this will all 05+?

05+. IMHO, relo brackets exacerbate the situation.


Yea mines definitely twisted. I tried every combination of rpm and tire pressure to get mine to hook yesterday and all it would do is a 1.88 and all it would want is to pull right and be squirly to the point I had to shut down. My rear is cockeyed and pinion angle is 0* so getting it all fixed when I get home, found a guy with a jig and chassis shop who can fix it right. Gotta find a adjustable upper and mount as well.

Bummer. This UCA & Mount kit is a good setup. If you're interested in picking one up, drop me a PM and I'll give you the 10% discount code. These parts are Made in America and carry a Lifetime Guarantee.

http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-...ouble-adjustable-upper-3rd-link-mount-11.html


In that case, I sure hope these welds hold! Lol.

I hear ya. It's a chunk of change. I have the 8.8 in my S197 and the Strange 9" in my Fox.
 

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For those of you who welded the housing/tubes yourself, what kind of wire and heat are you using?

Not an S197, but I did just weld up an axle this weekend - GM 10 bolt in the CP Autocross car I'm driving this year. We twisted a tube on the last one, so got a fresh housing and welded it, followed by moving all of the link brackets over.

I first preheated the joint to 350 - 400* with a torch, then did a small pass (1/8" - 3/16" bead) right in the root using my TIG machine cranked up to 185, followed by another pass that fully filled the gap with a convex weld. The convex weld is important in that it introduces less tension stress into the joint than a concave bead, and that is what will cause the cast iron to crack. Used 308 SS filler rod for it's high nickel content, which is supposed to be good for making the steel tubes and the cast pumpkin get along. After the second pass, the joint was wrapped with fiberglass insulation to slow the cooling. Took about 4 hours for it to fully cool. The brackets were then MIG'd on after the fact.

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EDIT - No, the MIG beads on the bracket are not mine. Just wanted to clarify. :)
 
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EDIT - No, the MIG beads on the bracket are not mine. Just wanted to clarify. :)

LOL, that's the first thing I saw when I scrolled down! Thanks for clarifying. :) I don't TIG, so I'll probably just have my chassis shop handle this when the time comes.
 

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LOL, that's the first thing I saw when I scrolled down! Thanks for clarifying. :) I don't TIG, so I'll probably just have my chassis shop handle this when the time comes.

Had to clarify. :) The car owner did those. They are strong, good penetration, etc., but ugly. The difficulty we had cutting the brackets off of the old axle showed that he can make them stick. They are not, however, as pretty as I like to see. :)
 

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Just got a return call from a customer with a 2013 Boss 302.

We spoke last week and I told him about the twisted axle tube phenomena.

The car has BMR Billet LCA's.....Adjustable UCA.....BMR-Panhard Bar.....BMR LCA Relo Brackets.....and H&R Super Sport Springs.

He confirmed the axle tube is twisted today. He is having the dealership install a new rear axle housing set-up, then having it welded.
 

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Just got a return call from a customer with a 2013 Boss 302.

We spoke last week and I told him about the twisted axle tube phenomena.

The car has BMR Billet LCA's.....Adjustable UCA.....BMR-Panhard Bar.....BMR LCA Relo Brackets.....and H&R Super Sport Springs.

He confirmed the axle tube is twisted today. He is having the dealership install a new rear axle housing set-up, then having it welded.

:whistling:


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