MCleod RST, RXT clutch

[DiMora]

The last time I was looking for one JPC had one of the best deals on a drop ship.

That is where I bought my lightened steel flywheel, driveshaft safety loop, and a new slave cylinder.

JPC was slow to ship the slave and loop, but I did get all of it and the price was fair. McLeod drop-shipped the new flywheel on my rebuilt RST to RXT conversion.

I do recommend JPC - and they also provide personalized service and they are supporters of the Mustang community.

 

[429244]

...The problem is that McLeod (and all the websites - AM, Jegs, Summit and even the McLeod website) say you can use a stock flywheel - but that is incorrect as my evidence shows.

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I am glad that you got your clutch problem figured out.
You are right, McLeod website still says that you can use your stock flywheel. When I called McLeod, they confirmed that a stock flywheel won't work and a proper size flywheel is required. If they know that is a problem, they should remove that information from their site.

 

[o2sys]

I'm glad I bought a McLeod flywheel but it was a coincidence cuz I needed an 8-bolt fw and someone selling happen to have the McLeod one.

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[DiMora]

I am glad that you got your clutch problem figured out.
You are right, McLeod website still says that you can use your stock flywheel. When I called McLeod, they confirmed that a stock flywheel won't work and a proper size flywheel is required. If they know that is a problem, they should remove that information from their site.

Yes, their website says this:

Intended for the high horsepower street/strip fan, the McLeod RXT Street twin clutch kit is an economically priced twin disc clutch kit that does not require a dedicated flywheel (you use your existing flywheel) in most applications.

...and this about the RXT, for example:

The RXT comes as a kit and can mount directly to the stock flywheel.

Not the use of the word CAN. Yeah, it can, and then you get to do it all over again 11,000 miles later. FAIL.

 

[CraigNnem]

Anyone have a link or part number for the ARP flywheel bolts needed?

 

[AutoXRacer]

Anyone have a link or part number for the ARP flywheel bolts needed?

http://arp-bolts.com/kits/ARPkit-detail.php?RecordID=1688

Summit Racing
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-254-2801/overview/

 

[CraigNnem]

Thanks bruh, you the real MVP!!!!

 

[CraigNnem]

One more question, the throw out bearing is just a stock part I can get from Ford or use my same one?

 

[DiMora]

One more question, the throw out bearing is just a stock part I can get from Ford or use my same one?

It is a stock Ford part. Most guys use a stocker. There are differences -some cars use one that is a different length, so make sure you order the right one.

It is really not recommended to re-use your old one. I did one time when my existing one only had 10,000 miles on it and I inspected it carefully, but since you have the tranny out, is is recommended to go ahead and put a new one in to alleviate any issues.

I've seen two other old (used) ones and compared them to my new one; one had the bearing rotating asymmetrically, and one had a lack of smoothness when spinning. They do wear out over time.

They also need to move in and out smoothly (the "plunger" action), but that squirts fluid everywhere if you don't immerse the line in a container of fluid.

Bottom line - I'd buy a new one. They are around $200.

"Bench" bleed your new one...put the line in clean brake fluid and move the piston in and out several times until there are no more bubbles left. Cap the line and it is ready to install.

You can break the line off your old TOB to about an inch and a half long and crimp it - and use that piece as a temporary piece to keep your clutch line (in the car) from leaking fluid all over the place.

Also consider adding an FRPP or JPC stainless clutch line while you are at it.

 

[CraigNnem]

Oh I must have called it the wrong thing. Im not talking about the green thing im talking about the little bearing that goes on the motor in the back of the crank. I heard someone say it doesnt come with a clutch kit but it is needed.

Just trying to see if I can reuse that or get a new one. I thought it was called pilot bearing.

 

[BruceH]

Most of the time you can reuse the pilot bearing. I only change it if the motor is coming out and even then not all the time.

Edit: Yes, the pilot bearing is in the crank.

Oh I must have called it the wrong thing. Im not talking about the green thing im talking about the little bearing that goes on the motor in the back of the crank. I heard someone say it doesnt come with a clutch kit but it is needed.

Just trying to see if I can reuse that or get a new one. I thought it was called pilot bearing.

 

[CraigNnem]

Thanks for your help.

so I can just get one from ford ??????

 

[BruceH]

Yes. It should be under $15. Most aftermarket parts companies sell them too.

Thanks for your help.

so I can just get one from ford ??????

 

[drive_55_not]

Thanks for your help.

so I can just get one from ford ??????

The bearing is packed with grease and has a plastic race the needles ride in which will break over time so you should replace it when you drop the tranny.

Advance Auto Parts has them for < $8 when ordered online and pick up at a store, # FC68329

Side note, I just r&r'd my Mcleod RXT as it was dragging terribly. After 20,000 miles it appears the clutch dust was built up around the adapter plate causing it to drag.



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[DiMora]

Oh I must have called it the wrong thing. Im not talking about the green thing im talking about the little bearing that goes on the motor in the back of the crank. I heard someone say it doesnt come with a clutch kit but it is needed.

Just trying to see if I can reuse that or get a new one. I thought it was called pilot bearing.

I'd replace it. It is a cheap part. You can get it out with bread (I'm not kidding - see YouTube) or buy a cheap pilot bearing puller from Harbor freight and slightly grind down the "L" hooks on the feet so it fits (it has too big a diameter out of the box). I used the Harbor Freight tool.

Most of the time you can reuse the pilot bearing. I only change it if the motor is coming out and even then not all the time.

Edit: Yes, the pilot bearing is in the crank.

Many folks re-use them (pilot bearings) with success; I fear problems if I don't replace it, and it is so cheap I say why not, but that would depend on the mileage. I wouldn't normally replace one that only had 10, 15 or 20,000 miles on it (although I just did). When putting in a new clutch or tranny, it's always nice to start with a clean slate. If mileage is high, you want to shot-gun it...new pilot bearing, clutch and slave all at once, but again, mileage can play into the equation. If I dropped my tranny tomorrow for some reason (say a clutch issue) I certainly wouldn't replace my sub-5,000 mile pilot and TOB/Slave if they passed inspection.

 

[DiMora]

The bearing is packed with grease and has a plastic race the needles ride in which will break over time so you should replace it when you drop the tranny.

Advance Auto Parts has them for < $8 when ordered online and pick up at a store, # FC68329

Side note, I just r&r'd my Mcleod RXT as it was dragging terribly. After 20,000 miles it appears the clutch dust was built up around the adapter plate causing it to drag.



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What flywheel are you using?

Are you going to send it to McLeod for inspection? It is well worth the shipping cost, and if it fails release testing or is warped, they are good about adding all new parts (except for the adapter ring) and sending you a whole new setup. McLeod stuff is very expensive, but so far I have been very impressed with their after-sales support - especially when the problem was theirs.

I suggest you send them the whole assembly - flywheel and whole clutch - and they will diagnose / autopsy it. They called me and gave me the exact issues, right down to thousandths. Took less than a week. They even paid for the return shipping to me.

 

[AlbertD]

Issues generally show up after a few thousand miles.

The first 2-3K miles are perfect. lol

Just wanted to provide an update on my RXT experience since it has been over 10k miles since I installed it. It still shifts like butter, zero noises (quieter than the stock GT500 clutch), and it holds the power effortlessly. RXT FTW!

 

[DiMora]

Just wanted to provide an update on my RXT experience since it has been over 10k miles since I installed it. It still shifts like butter, zero noises (quieter than the stock GT500 clutch), and it holds the power effortlessly. RXT FTW!

Same here! Love it.

 

[Falkinman]

How many guys using the RXT are doing a LOT of drag racing? What RPM are you launching at and shifting at? I need a new clutch on my 2012 because I drag race a lot and have burned my second stock clutch now. I have drag radials and launch at 6,000 or slightly higher. I do drive on the street but it's not a daily driver by any stretch. The primary purpose of this car is drag racing.

 

[AutoXRacer]

How many guys using the RXT are doing a LOT of drag racing? What RPM are you launching at and shifting at? I need a new clutch on my 2012 because I drag race a lot and have burned my second stock clutch now. I have drag radials and launch at 6,000 or slightly higher. I do drive on the street but it's not a daily driver by any stretch. The primary purpose of this car is drag racing.

OMG, you launch at 6K???

I launch mine at 3,500 on 2nd gear. Stock clutches cannot handle those types of launches. I shift at 7,600 RPM.

The RXT is an excellent clutch that can handle lots of abuse. But it needs to be exactly installed per McLeods instructions. Also get yourself the McLeod flywheel along with the RXT. Do not get the RST, it will not handle racing.