2011 Mustang gt weight

[RedStang06]

They do, do they? That would be news to all of us who "accidently" got aluminum blocks in our 05+ Mustangs.

accidentally

 

[don_w]

accidentally

Did you notice my quote marks? That was intentional...

 

[waketek516]

My engine block is platinum!

 

[SirKnightTG]

Yah, don't think so.

If a Camaro SS @ 4000lbs and 425HP can manage 13.0, I'm pretty sure a 3600lbs GT 5.0 @ 412HP can do high 12's. Plus when you look at what an S197 can do with very minimal mods + driver mod...

 

[1fastpony]

Beryllium I heard. Works for me.

 

[Gene K]

If a Camaro SS @ 4000lbs and 425HP can manage 13.0, I'm pretty sure a 3600lbs GT 5.0 @ 412HP can do high 12's. Plus when you look at what an S197 can do with very minimal mods + driver mod...

Gene K - Showroom Stock 2007 2.0 13.4 @ 103
(Track was really slick. Had at least another 2/10 in it with a 1.8. Driver weighed 280 lb. Couldnt wait to install CAI and Tune)

Scott C - Showroom Stock 2005 1.8 13.2 @ 104 (I witnessed and know the car was stock)

American Speed -2006? CAI/Tune on Pirellis 1.8 12.8 @ 107 (Witnessed and certified by Justin of VMP Tuning)

Gene K -2007 CAI/Tune on Pirellis 1.8-2.0 12.9@105-107 (Must have 30 12.9's. Driver is still 280 lb).

Im 40 lb lighter (and dropping) and if my 2011 doesnt do any better than high 12's Im going to be highly agitated, In good air Im looking for 12.4 or better.

PS the curb weight is 3598 lb for a Base GT with Spoiler Delete. Should be about 3530 with 5 gal of fuel ready to party.

 

[Twinscrewgt]

I agree with gene. I have a few buddies with eaton converversion machs. Low boost making around the 420 mark. they both run 12.3's. SO with some good driving and sticky tires i think mid 12s are very achievable

 

[beefcake]

I agree with gene. I have a few buddies with eaton converversion machs. Low boost making around the 420 mark. they both run 12.3's. SO with some good driving and sticky tires i think mid 12s are very achievable

without a doubt.

my 10' went 12.8 with a cai, gears, and a flash and sticky tires this sunday. the track was unprepped and cold and still only pulling 1.8's. i know for sure i'll get 12.5's out of her in the next week or 2

with a 3.73 option on the new motor, the effective ratio should be close to the same on the new car, and with more power??? I'm making probably 2.80's if i had to guess, the 5.0 is gonna be making at least mid 3's, i'm thinking on dr's, at least 12.2's outta this car

 

[Gene K]

without a doubt.

my 10' went 12.8 with a cai, gears, and a flash and sticky tires this sunday. the track was unprepped and cold and still only pulling 1.8's. i know for sure i'll get 12.5's out of her in the next week or 2

with a 3.73 option on the new motor, the effective ratio should be close to the same on the new car, and with more power??? I'm making probably 2.80's if i had to guess, the 5.0 is gonna be making at least mid 3's, i'm thinking on dr's, at least 12.2's outta this car

Your going to need taller tires to run 3.73 without a tune to trap in 4th in mineshaft air.

In mineshaft air the car should trap 115 mph (117 mph at finish line) which is going to put you at 7350 rpm (350 rpm past factory limiter) in 4th.

Showroom Stock with 3.55 these cars will go 12.4@115 sooner or later with nothing but a driver mod. Im not at all sure that 3.31 will be slower in stock trim. 3.73 will be great with sticky taller tires, a raised limiter or bad air (If you live at altitude you will want the 3.73.)

With 3.73, 27" Tall DR's, a Tune (Even if all it does it bump the limiter 500 rpm), good track prep and good air the car should get into the high 11's. Essentially this car should be 1.0 seconds faster than 05-10 in near stock trim.

I do have something thats bothering me.... Ford says 110% VE at 390 lb-ft of torque and also 100% VE at 6500 rpm which is only 412 bhp (333 lb-ft). Something their doesnt compute. A little math says that should be closer to 438 bhp... A non-linear increase in friction might explain it but 26 bhp worth? hmmmmm....Ford has been extremely conservative with their ratings since the '99 Cobra fiasco. Just makes you wonder....

The one monkey in the works may be the torque management (which I will be suprised if it doesnt have). If its as aggressive as it was on the LS2 Corvettes it might cost a lot of ET.

 

[jroc07gt]

I don't think we'll see the 2011's running 11s with so little mods. I can believe low 12s, but 11s is a little far fetched.

 

[beefcake]

I don't think we'll see the 2011's running 11s with so little mods. I can believe low 12s, but 11s is a little far fetched.

i've seen bone stock vettes rated at 430hp go 11's on street tires

this car is 400 lbs heavier, so in theory .4 slower or so.

but, you put a sticky tire that you can dump at 5-5500 rpms and your gonna run .4 to .6 better than stock. i believe s sticky tire car will probably go 11's

 

[2k05gt]

My engine block is platinum!

Well, Ha My engine block is Titanium so There !!!!

 

[Twinscrewgt]

Your going to need taller tires to run 3.73 without a tune to trap in 4th in mineshaft air.

In mineshaft air the car should trap 115 mph (117 mph at finish line) which is going to put you at 7350 rpm (350 rpm past factory limiter) in 4th.

Showroom Stock with 3.55 these cars will go 12.4@115 sooner or later with nothing but a driver mod. Im not at all sure that 3.31 will be slower in stock trim. 3.73 will be great with sticky taller tires, a raised limiter or bad air (If you live at altitude you will want the 3.73.)

With 3.73, 27" Tall DR's, a Tune (Even if all it does it bump the limiter 500 rpm), good track prep and good air the car should get into the high 11's. Essentially this car should be 1.0 seconds faster than 05-10 in near stock trim.

I do have something thats bothering me.... Ford says 110% VE at 390 lb-ft of torque and also 100% VE at 6500 rpm which is only 412 bhp (333 lb-ft). Something their doesnt compute. A little math says that should be closer to 438 bhp... A non-linear increase in friction might explain it but 26 bhp worth? hmmmmm....Ford has been extremely conservative with their ratings since the '99 Cobra fiasco. Just makes you wonder....

The one monkey in the works may be the torque management (which I will be suprised if it doesnt have). If its as aggressive as it was on the LS2 Corvettes it might cost a lot of ET.

I have a gut feeling ford over shot there goal on this motor and had to de tune it to 412. Something just tells me this motor has some major na potential

 

[don_w]

Well, Ha My engine block is Titanium so There !!!!

Some are uranium or plutonium... they blow up.

 

[Vapour Trails]

Your going to need taller tires to run 3.73 without a tune to trap in 4th in mineshaft air.

In mineshaft air the car should trap 115 mph (117 mph at finish line) which is going to put you at 7350 rpm (350 rpm past factory limiter) in 4th.

Showroom Stock with 3.55 these cars will go 12.4@115 sooner or later with nothing but a driver mod. Im not at all sure that 3.31 will be slower in stock trim. 3.73 will be great with sticky taller tires, a raised limiter or bad air (If you live at altitude you will want the 3.73.)

With 3.73, 27" Tall DR's, a Tune (Even if all it does it bump the limiter 500 rpm), good track prep and good air the car should get into the high 11's. Essentially this car should be 1.0 seconds faster than 05-10 in near stock trim.

I do have something thats bothering me.... Ford says 110% VE at 390 lb-ft of torque and also 100% VE at 6500 rpm which is only 412 bhp (333 lb-ft). Something their doesnt compute. A little math says that should be closer to 438 bhp... A non-linear increase in friction might explain it but 26 bhp worth? hmmmmm....Ford has been extremely conservative with their ratings since the '99 Cobra fiasco. Just makes you wonder....

The one monkey in the works may be the torque management (which I will be suprised if it doesnt have). If its as aggressive as it was on the LS2 Corvettes it might cost a lot of ET.

There is no way a stock 2011 GT is going to trap 115, mineshaft air or not. It takes more power at the wheels that the 2011 has at the crank to achieve that.

 

[Gene K]

Vapor Trails, I suspect you made the error of depending on an online calculator.
Consider the following rwhp figures from these calculators.

2007 Mustang GT w/ CAI and Mailorder Tune.
330* bhp or 290* rwhp (Estimate. Its never been dynoed))
3700 lb (280 lb Driver)
DA -71' ASL / 106.6 mph / 350 rwhp
DA -1500' ASL / 108.1 mph / 365 rwhp

I dont know about you but I seriously doubt my CAI/Tune car has ever made 365 rwhp.

How many mph do you think a 82 bhp gain is good for? My moneys on 7 mph.

 

[Twinscrewgt]

I'm jealous. Our da is close to 7000' ;(

 

[Gene K]

I'm jealous. Our da is close to 7000' ;(

That was the point I was making earlier. This is where you need the 3.73 Gear Option.

 

[Twinscrewgt]

I went with the 3.73 with my 2011 order

 

[jroc07gt]

Are you the same guys that believed the 2010 camaro SS was going to run 12.8 stock?

400 pounds only makes a .4 difference right? Well the 426 hp Camaro SS weighing at 3900 lbs only runs 13.3 @ 108 mph.

Ya...that's only 300 pounds more than the 2011 mustang GT.