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Hey whats up Randy? I wont upgrading the cage anytime soon. I will be getting the hot protective clothing soon though.
I am still running Lens trans. Its been good, besides the first converter and the output shaft that broke the first week I had the trans.
Im going to be putting a slick on it this week and we have a rental next week where I will be putting it at 25+ psi. I am running a little lean at times. It bounces all around from 11.2 to 12.0 and back to 11.0 from the unstable fuel pressure. I think it should be ok, its not like there is tons of overlap in the cam to make much a big difference. As long as it stays on the fat side more than the lean side it.

I got my trans all fixed up @ Lens,the outputshaft had rotationally twisted,he did not realize i had an old style one that was knurled down after the splines,i now have splines running all the way up as far as possible,he also installed a extra clutch in 1st & 3rd,everything else looked awsome inside for having over 1000 hits on it.Those guys rebuilt the thing in 4 hours including lunch,they certainly know what they are doing,from tear down & wash to engine dynoing the trans.Very impressive.
Did you do those passes on an ET street?
Just run a good high octane fuel Paul,running lean makes incredible power,be careful.I have danced with that devil last year.This year i am being conservative with the stock long block still performing for me.
 

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I got my trans all fixed up @ Lens,the outputshaft had rotationally twisted,he did not realize i had an old style one that was knurled down after the splines,i now have splines running all the way up as far as possible,he also installed a extra clutch in 1st & 3rd,everything else looked awsome inside for having over 1000 hits on it.Those guys rebuilt the thing in 4 hours including lunch,they certainly know what they are doing,from tear down & wash to engine dynoing the trans.Very impressive.
Did you do those passes on an ET street?
Just run a good high octane fuel Paul,running lean makes incredible power,be careful.I have danced with that devil last year.This year i am being conservative with the stock long block still performing for me.

I hear ya on the lean. It is mostly running on the safe side though. It sees 11.0, 11.2 then it will go to 12.0 and back to 11.2. Its from the unstable fuel pressure. Im going to be upgrading the rails and putting a AIS meth kit on for added safety for octane boost, cooling and it will keep steady A/F. It will probably run on the rich side, but it will be better. Then it wont pull timing up top. Cause its pulling timing up top from the IATs.

Yea im gonna have to pull the trans out some time in the near future. I seem to be feeling a slight vibration when only rolling at a very very slow speed. 10mph and under NON acceleration. Just when im off the gas it seems to do it at very low speed. Just like something is rubbing. Feels like the drive shaft is actually rubbing the loop, but I doubt it is.
Are you still running the stock pan? I was thinking about upgrading the stock pan to a deeper, aluminum, finned pan with a drain plug. Only cause of heat issues. I upgraded to a bigger cooler from the stock one he sent. But sittin on the brake heats that think up a lot more than the blower did. Just cause I have to sit longer for the turbo to spool. With the blower I barely sat on the brake longer than 1 sec. Now its like 5 seconds. Im gonna be putting a fan on the cooler also. After every run the trans temp is about 210* - 215*. Which isnt that bad, considering most trans are designed to run normal operating temps from 150* - 250*. But anything over 200* is too hot for me.
Chris (cruzing2much) gave me his old slicks, 28-10.5-15w so ill be switching from the 325-50-15 drag radial I had on. Not sure if im going to put tubes in it though. I heard that they make the ride stable but sometimes bouncy. Screws are a must though.
What fluid are you running in the trans? Ive always been using Type F. I always got napa stuff, I think im going to try castrol Type F today with filter and gasket, then possible go with red line type F when I get the new pan.
 
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I hear ya on the lean. It is mostly running on the safe side though. It sees 11.0, 11.2 then it will go to 12.0 and back to 11.2. Its from the unstable fuel pressure. Im going to be upgrading the rails and putting a AIS meth kit on for added safety for octane boost, cooling and it will keep steady A/F. It will probably run on the rich side, but it will be better. Then it wont pull timing up top. Cause its pulling timing up top from the IATs.

Yea im gonna have to pull the trans out some time in the near future. I seem to be feeling a slight vibration when only rolling at a very very slow speed. 10mph and under NON acceleration. Just when im off the gas it seems to do it at very low speed. Just like something is rubbing. Feels like the drive shaft is actually rubbing the loop, but I doubt it is.
Are you still running the stock pan? I was thinking about upgrading the stock pan to a deeper, aluminum, finned pan with a drain plug. Only cause of heat issues. I upgraded to a bigger cooler from the stock one he sent. But sittin on the brake heats that think up a lot more than the blower did. Just cause I have to sit longer for the turbo to spool. With the blower I barely sat on the brake longer than 1 sec. Now its like 5 seconds. Im gonna be putting a fan on the cooler also. After every run the trans temp is about 210* - 215*. Which isnt that bad, considering most trans are designed to run normal operating temps from 150* - 250*. But anything over 200* is too hot for me.
Chris (cruzing2much) gave me his old slicks, 28-10.5-15w so ill be switching from the 325-50-15 drag radial I had on. Not sure if im going to put tubes in it though. I heard that they make the ride stable but sometimes bouncy. Screws are a must though.
What fluid are you running in the trans? Ive always been using Type F. I always got napa stuff, I think im going to try castrol Type F today with filter and gasket, then possible go with red line type F when I get the new pan.

I had a vib as well,found two things wrong,driveshaft had 80 thou runout,it was alum,i replaced it with a dynotech alum,thats when i found out i could not slide it up far enough on the output shaft.
I use type F as well,whatever brand is on sale,its not in there long enough to buy the real expensive stuff.It seems to work fine for me.
I put tubes & screwed my rims this year,no more major air loss when parked,tubes are like $60.00 each ouch.
I don't know what my trans temps are,i would love to get a pan with a drain plug,its a PITA changing the oil & filter,it goes everywhere & drips forever from the valve body.
As for timing being pulled by the ECM i LOCKED mine & some other things as well.You could say i am flirtin with disaster especially with a stock longblock pushing 12-15 psi,but hey i am still beating on this thing like a pedophile.You just have to pay attention to cooling,ice,etc.I have many different tunes depending on the track & weather thanks to Pat at www.steeda.ca i have one tune that has my fan on high at 100F with no thermostat,locked timing at 20 degrees.Next i am going to start some leaner passes with the C-16 i have been using.
 

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Paul congrats. Can't wait til you get a clean pass on that thing.

For those of you that talk badly of emailing tuning, let this be the proof that it does work.
 

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Hey Paul congrats , I just got home and opened the computer and said to myself I wonder if anyone has any PB's from the track .
Im itching to go but the weather here sucks . Im excited to get back now that the car is retuned.

Nice run congrats again. Hey how much boost did you see off the line?



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Paul congrats. Can't wait til you get a clean pass on that thing.

For those of you that talk badly of emailing tuning, let this be the proof that it does work.


Exactly, Eric never even seen this car in person and got the tune dead on. It runs and sounds stock at idle and when you get on it, hold on!!!!. Never had a CEL either with the tune.

I just got the slicks today, getting them mounted this week and going to the rental Friday to get a good pass leaving at 12psi and maybe even higher.
 

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Hey Paul congrats , I just got home and opened the computer and said to myself I wonder if anyone has any PB's from the track .
Im itching to go but the weather here sucks . Im excited to get back now that the car is retuned.

Nice run congrats again. Hey how much boost did you see off the line?



Pete


Hey thanks Pete. I know your car has it in it. The first run (10.79) left at 3500 at 9psi. Stayed right around 9psi the entire run.
The second run, I must of activated the 2 step too high. You know the 1000rpm thing. I was watching go to 3500 and it seemed like it went from 3200 to 4200 very quickly and I launched. Didnt really see how much boost that was but it spun violently. I let out and got back in it and went 10.08.
The 3rd pass I left at 3500 (9psi) and still spun, let out quickly and got back in it and went 9.89. The 2nd and 3rd run seen 20.5 psi max on the boost controller but was in the 19s most of the way down the track when I was trying to see the A/F gauge.
 

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Wow! That's hauling, congrats!!
 

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Hey thanks Pete. I know your car has it in it. The first run (10.79) left at 3500 at 9psi. Stayed right around 9psi the entire run.
The second run, I must of activated the 2 step too high. You know the 1000rpm thing. I was watching go to 3500 and it seemed like it went from 3200 to 4200 very quickly and I launched. Didnt really see how much boost that was but it spun violently. I let out and got back in it and went 10.08.
The 3rd pass I left at 3500 (9psi) and still spun, let out quickly and got back in it and went 9.89. The 2nd and 3rd run seen 20.5 psi max on the boost controller but was in the 19s most of the way down the track when I was trying to see the A/F gauge.


So are you using 2 2 steps like me ? Which boost controller are you using , E-boost 2? Sounds about right it will record peak boost so when the boost climbs hard it will take a second to level off. You can play with the sns settings and gate pressure setting to control that . What spring is in the WG? and what do you have the Gate pressure setting at?

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So are you using 2 2 steps like me ? Which boost controller are you using , E-boost 2? Sounds about right it will record peak boost so when the boost climbs hard it will take a second to level off. You can play with the sns settings and gate pressure setting to control that . What spring is in the WG? and what do you have the Gate pressure setting at?

Pete

Im only using 1 2step. I footbrake the car at the 1st bulb and try to keep it around 2000 now. The second run I was just keeping as high as I could on the footbrake cause it usually would push past the brakes at around 2400. But the 2step didnt activate the 2nd time cause I must of been over 2500.

Im using the AEM tru boost controller. Its similiar to the E-boost 2, but doesnt have as many features. The only setting that I have is called spring crack. It supposed to prevent over boost like the gate pressure is. It starts to crack the wastegate at a certain boost level. I had mine set at 18psi cause I really didnt care if it went over 20psi. It also has a setting called scramble boost that I didnt use but gives you more or less boost when it is switched for a period of time that I can choose.
The only way I could tell that it leveled out was by watching the A/F gauge (very hard to do when you are moving like we are as you know), the boost controller is right above in the first pillar and the wideband is in the 2nd.
I need to get some fuel rails ASAP. The injectors are draining the stock fuel rail faster than the fuel pump can fill it making lean spikes in A/F ratio.
I seen that BBR has the rail kit for 180. What is the difference from thiers and Fores, Lethals and others that are in the 280 range. Im talking about rails, adapter and crossover lines.
 

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Are you going to run on e85 in the future if so I would get the E Coated rails from Fore.
Im going to switch to E85 myself , ordering new injectors next week , but want to make a few passes if the weather is good the way its set now.
The two set should have activated at what ever setting you have it on .
I run 2 , 2 step launchers and I have to have them set about 1000 rpms from each other . One is on the FB the other on TB.

The rails will definately help . You also need to have enough fuel in the tank , make sure you have more then 5 gallons.


Pete
 

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